Re: free IDE/Flame , no Boast war...

2005-11-21 Thread Petr Vileta
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 3:08 PM Subject: Re: free IDE/Flame , no Boast war... i know i'm late, but considering i didn't check on the weekend and thursday and friday at work were rather hectic, here's my take on IDE/Editors Pe

Re: your programming generation (OT; from remember when...)

2005-11-21 Thread Chris . R . Marbach
27 here..  Southern California... USA Christopher R. Marbach Data Consultant DQC/ETL Lead Pharmacy Analytical Services Kaiser Permanente CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message and any files or text attached to it are intended only for the recipients named above, and contain information that may

Re: Run script using Perlis.dll

2005-11-21 Thread Filip Balicki
http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/docs/ActivePerl/5.8/faq/Windows/ActivePerl- Winfaq6.html#microsoft_web_servers Ok I won't say RTFM because it's rude, but here's a link to what you need. Thanks, but it wasn't my question... I know how can i map for example *.pl scripts for virtual directory but

Re: Readonly wants a reference?

2005-11-21 Thread Deane . Rothenmaier
The problem was a version conflict... My command line was running 5.8 and the compiler compiles to 5.6. In 5.6 I needed the reference: use Readonly; Readonly \my $FOO => 7; # goofy reference needed So, until the conversion to 5.8 becomes "official", I think I'll just stick with use constant inst

How to retrieve "message" from message box ?

2005-11-21 Thread Raniak Robert
Hello gurus, I have a question. How to retrieve "message" from message box?   I tried to do it with Win32::Guitest. I am able to get title of msgbox or get text from button, but I don't know how to retrieve main message of msgbox. It's not urgent :)   Thanks for any help/idea, Robert._

Corrected question , how to retrieve "message" from message box of delphi app?

2005-11-21 Thread Raniak Robert
I am sorry, for wrong question. It's message box of delphi application. Msgbox have only one child, OK button (class TButton). Exist way to read message from messageboxes of this type? R.   Hello gurus, I have a question. How to retrieve "message" from message box?   I tried to do it w

RE: Re: Ah, another flame war in the making...

2005-11-21 Thread Deane . Rothenmaier
Are you sure it wasn't because FORTRAN's originator was exactly six feet tall (six feet = 72 inches), and had a Procrustean streak? "Ken Cornetet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/21/2005 14:38                 To:        "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]"         cc:                

Re: help on a plain text file

2005-11-21 Thread $Bill Luebkert
Gomez, Juan wrote: > > Hello guys I have a question > > I have a file that has this at the end of each line " ^M" I know is > because it was on a excel file that I turn into a comma separated file > > But how can I delete that little thingy? > > > Thanks > > Here is an example: > > data1;1

RE: Re: Ah, another flame war in the making...

2005-11-21 Thread Ken Cornetet
That's why FORTRAN compilers (real ones, not the newfangled stuff) stop reading at column 72 - you sequentially number your cards starting in column 73. Drop you deck? No problem, just run them through a sorter!   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROT

Re: Readonly wants a reference?

2005-11-21 Thread JPerlmutter
Deane- Was the book written with Larry's blessing? maybe he had it changed to confuse people if it wasn't! more seriously though, try setting a variable and then putting that to the variable so. use Readonly; Readonly my $DATA_COLS => 7;# this is line 103 in the code.

Readonly wants a reference?

2005-11-21 Thread Deane . Rothenmaier
Wise ones, I'm having a problem using Readonly (as recommended in Perl Best Practices by Conway). This is all the code needed to duplicate it:         use Readonly;         Readonly my $DATA_COLS => 7;    # this is line 103 in the code... Compiling using perlapp goes fine, but at runtime I get

help on a plain text file

2005-11-21 Thread Gomez, Juan
Hello guys I have a question I have a file that has this at the end of each line " ^M" I know is because it was on a excel file that I turn into a comma separated file But how can I delete that little thingy? Thanks Here is an example: data1;123123123;data2;data3^M <- see this is what

RE: Ah, another flame war in the making...

2005-11-21 Thread Charles K. Clarkson
Craig Cardimon <> wrote: : I wonder if I can get someone to pay bills, but let me make the : decisions? Run for Congress. :) Charles K. Clarkson -- Mobile Homes Specialist 254 968-8328 . . . With Liberty and Justice for all (heterosexuals). _

Re: Ah, another flame war in the making...

2005-11-21 Thread pDale
On 11/21/05, Mitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anybody ever heard of a language called Algol ? Oh, yeah. And to think people call *Perl* line-noise! (Just came up recently on a non-prog list.) -- pDale Campbell "All the birds are laughing! C'mon, let's all join in." __

Re: Ah, another flame war in the making...

2005-11-21 Thread pDale
On 11/21/05, pDale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 11/21/05, Mitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Anybody ever heard of a language called Algol ? > > Oh, yeah. And to think people call *Perl* line-noise! (Just came up > recently on a non-prog list.) Oh, I *am* getting old... Was thinking of APL.

Re: your programming generation (OT; from remember when...)

2005-11-21 Thread Jens Gassmann
Hi, > Well, this list runs the gambit it seems. Am i the youngest? Or is > here anyone younger than 26? i'am only 26 too, regards from germany, Jens ___ ActivePerl mailing list ActivePerl@listserv.ActiveState.com To unsubscribe: http://listserv.Active

Re: Re: Ah, another flame war in the making...

2005-11-21 Thread wix
... and not having sequence numbers in them because they took too much time to punch! :-( > worse than that--dropping the card stack you spent all morning punching > in. > > > > > > "Beau E. Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 11/18/2005 20:16 > > > To: "$Bill L

RE: Re: Ah, another flame war in the making...

2005-11-21 Thread Brian Raven
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roger A. Shepherd Sent: 21 November 2005 15:28 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Beau E. Cox' Cc: '$Bill Luebkert'; ''[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Re: Ah, another flame war in the making... > worse than that--dropping the c

Re: Ah, another flame war in the making...

2005-11-21 Thread Anthony R. Nemmer
Actually there is a variant of Algol called Jovial that is still used in military avionics. I believe it was also used to program air traffic control software. There is even a Jovial web site: http://www.jovial.hill.af.mil/ And to tie this thread up and get back to Perl, take a look here ht

Re: your programming generation (OT; from remember when...)

2005-11-21 Thread JPerlmutter
Well, this list runs the gambit it seems. Am i the youngest? Or is there anyone younger than 26? ___ ActivePerl mailing list ActivePerl@listserv.ActiveState.com To unsubscribe: http://listserv.ActiveState.com/mailman/mysubs

RE: Ah, another flame war in the making...

2005-11-21 Thread Gomez, Juan
I know that feeling when something goes "BOOM" and for me it wasn't funny I remember 3 years ago I work for a web developer and we were going to do a very important Presentation for a complete site, an hour before it start the presentation My boss told me to clean the laptop (which I thought to cl

Re: Ah, another flame war in the making...

2005-11-21 Thread Craig Cardimon
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You got it. Watching things go "BOOM" is so much more fun than watching them go "foof" whilst emitting a small puff of smoke Precisely so. Why kill your own pitiful hard drive when you can fry the server and crash the web site, especially during a demo for potent

RE: Run script using Perlis.dll

2005-11-21 Thread Wayne Simmons
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > I need to configure mapping under IIS to specify script. How can i > specify script using perlis.dll? http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/docs/ActivePerl/5.8/faq/Windows/ActivePerl- Winfaq6.html#microsoft_web_serv

Re: Re: Ah, another flame war in the making...

2005-11-21 Thread Gary Trosper
Should your lamp ever burn out on your PDP-8 paper tape reader you can always substitute a dome lamp from a vintage volkswagon... that is, if you can find one. But then you guys already knew that! Gary Trosper - Original Message - From: "David Budd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "[EMAIL PROT

Run script using Perlis.dll

2005-11-21 Thread fbalicki
Hi! I need to configure mapping under IIS to specify script. Of course i can select executable to "c:\perl\bin\perl.exe my_script.pl %s" but i want do the same using perlis.dll. Is it possible? How can i run specify script using perlis.dll? Regards, Filip

RE: Re: Ah, another flame war in the making...

2005-11-21 Thread Jan Dubois
Roger A. Shepherd wrote: >> worse than that--dropping the card stack you spent all morning >> punching in. > > But the magic marker trick - a diagonal stripe across the top of the > deck of cards - made it easy to sort without reference to sequence > numbers. If you are prone to dropping your

Re: Ah, another flame war in the making...

2005-11-21 Thread Deane . Rothenmaier
You got it. Watching things go "BOOM" is so much more fun than watching them go "foof" whilst emitting a small puff of smoke Craig Cardimon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/21/2005 09:49                 To:        "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>         cc:  

RE: Ah, another flame war in the making...

2005-11-21 Thread Wayne Simmons
> From: Mitch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Anybody ever heard of a language called Algol? Yeah I remember learning about it in college, I think it was described as an ancient programming language dead for decades. :-p Ok now that we've all proven we participated in dinosaur hunts, shall we get ba

Re: Ah, another flame war in the making...

2005-11-21 Thread Craig Cardimon
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good old days? Define "good." How about when someone else paid the bills and made the decisions? I wonder if I can get someone to pay bills, but let me make the decisions? -- Craig --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0546-6, 11/20/2

RE: Re: Ah, another flame war in the making...

2005-11-21 Thread Roger A. Shepherd
worse than that--dropping the card stack you spent all morning punching in. But the magic marker trick – a diagonal stripe across the top of the deck of cards – made it easy to sort without reference to sequence numbers. Been there – dropped those. Cheers.     "Be

Re: golden days of programming discussion (very ot)

2005-11-21 Thread JPerlmutter
Deane- what? you didn't use a magic marker to make a diagonal strip incase someone did that? my father has at least one program from college that he decided to save and there is a diagonal strip on one side so that it can be lined up again, if even taken out of order. -Josh __

Re: Ah, another flame war in the making...

2005-11-21 Thread Craig Cardimon
David Budd wrote: While we're reminiscing about the Elder Days, can I just mention that I once leant back in the ops chair at a CDC Cyber170 console, put my foot up against the panel, and found a power switch... The console went off, and that sent a glitch down the power line that took the who

RE: Re: Ah, another flame war in the making...

2005-11-21 Thread Brian Raven
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21 November 2005 14:11 To: Beau E. Cox Cc: $Bill Luebkert; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; '[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: Ah, another flame war in the making... > worse than that--dropping the card stack you spent all m

Re: Ah, another flame war in the making...

2005-11-21 Thread Mitch
On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 08:10:39 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >worse than that--dropping the card stack you spent all morning punching >in. .. or .. o stepping on and thus breaking and/or tearing the paper tape you spent all morning punching in o discovering that vital card stack you care

Re: Re: Ah, another flame war in the making...

2005-11-21 Thread Deane . Rothenmaier
worse than that--dropping the card stack you spent all morning punching in. "Beau E. Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/18/2005 20:16                 To:        "$Bill Luebkert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]"         cc:                 Subject:        

RE: Re: Ah, another flame war in the making...

2005-11-21 Thread Deane . Rothenmaier
Born in 48. Running punch-press in 74--operating, not programming, no such thing then. Back to school in 77, degreed in 83 (long time? long story). "Gomez, Juan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/18/2005 15:52                 To:        "Combs, Stephen F \(GE Consumer & In

RE: Ah, another flame war in the making...

2005-11-21 Thread Deane . Rothenmaier
Good old days? Define "good." Line editing on a bidirectional printer, or entering code on a teletype then dumping it to paper tape... Etc. "Roger A. Shepherd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/18/2005 16:40 Please respond to rogershepherd                 To:        <[EMAIL

RE: Re: Ah, another flame war in the making...

2005-11-21 Thread David Budd
While we're reminiscing about the Elder Days, can I just mention that I once leant back in the ops chair at a CDC Cyber170 console, put my foot up against the panel, and found a power switch... The console went off, and that sent a glitch down the power line that took the whole machine down. Oo

Ah, another flame war in the making...

2005-11-21 Thread R. S. van Keuren
Ah, yes PDP-11s...I came in just as paper tape was being abandoned...RSTS/E-6C.  VAX, Alpha.  TPU/EVE was an extendable editor that made a reasonably good IDE.  I added lots of features to it for programming.  Since starting a job using AIX a year and a half ago, I've written an editor in P

Re: free IDE/Flame , no Boast war...

2005-11-21 Thread JPerlmutter
i know i'm late, but considering i didn't check on the weekend and thursday and friday at work were rather hectic, here's my take on IDE/Editors Petr Vileta-- vim is ALWAYS the answer of the "old guard." i have yet to meet one who uses much more than the editor features of an IDE, so for them

Re: Ah, another flame war in the making...

2005-11-21 Thread Deane . Rothenmaier
Front panel switches on a PDP-11, the memories  Once I wrote a program (on paper tape) that picked random cuss-words in FORTRAN. "Anthony R. Nemmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/18/2005 15:42 Please respond to intertwingled                 To:        "Combs, Step

RE: Good Free Perl IDE?

2005-11-21 Thread Steve.Malbon
> but since we are going to use IDE for a team of 12 > programmers, we can Not invest in 10-12 licenses Surely if your development team has got that big then that is exactly when you *DO* need to invest some money into proper development tools. SteveM This electronic message contains informat