Re: Ah, another flame war in the making...

2005-11-22 Thread Anthony R. Nemmer
ED]> cc: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Subject: Re: Ah, another flame war in the making... On 11/22/05, Lester Pyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have a whole box of unused punch cards in my garage that I use for making lists to go the the hardware store.

Re: Ah, another flame war in the making...

2005-11-22 Thread Deane . Rothenmaier
Nah. I'll bet he just uses a different JCL stack. David Nicol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/22/2005 13:32                 To:        Lester Pyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>         cc:        "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]"         Subject:        

Re: Ah, another flame war in the making...

2005-11-22 Thread David Nicol
On 11/22/05, Lester Pyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a whole box of unused punch cards in my garage that I use for > making lists to go the the hardware store. One supposes that if you make a list for a store of a different type, your errand is halted with a compile-time fault? _

Re: Ah, another flame war in the making...

2005-11-22 Thread Anthony R. Nemmer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]" cc: Subject:Re: Re: Ah, another flame war in the making... Hi $Bill Luebkert - At 2005-11-18, 14:58:08 you wrote: Roger A. Shepherd wrote: Try this -- Litton L-3050 with a 16 bit boot regis

Re: Ah, another flame war in the making...

2005-11-22 Thread Lester Pyle
*Sent:* Monday, November 21, 2005 9:11 AM > *To:* Beau E. Cox > *Cc:* $Bill Luebkert; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > '[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Subject:* Re: Re: Ah, another flame war in the making... > > > worse than that--dropping the card stack you spent all morning punching > in.

RE: Re: Ah, another flame war in the making...

2005-11-21 Thread Deane . Rothenmaier
'[EMAIL PROTECTED]"         cc:                 Subject:        RE: Re: Ah, another flame war in the making... That's why FORTRAN compilers (real ones, not the newfangled stuff) stop reading at column 72 - you sequentially number your cards starting in column 73. Drop you deck? No problem, ju

RE: Re: Ah, another flame war in the making...

2005-11-21 Thread Ken Cornetet
EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 9:11 AMTo: Beau E. CoxCc: $Bill Luebkert; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: Re: Ah, another flame war in the making... worse than that--dropping the card stack you spent all morning punching in. &q

RE: Ah, another flame war in the making...

2005-11-21 Thread Charles K. Clarkson
Craig Cardimon <> wrote: : I wonder if I can get someone to pay bills, but let me make the : decisions? Run for Congress. :) Charles K. Clarkson -- Mobile Homes Specialist 254 968-8328 . . . With Liberty and Justice for all (heterosexuals). _

Re: Ah, another flame war in the making...

2005-11-21 Thread pDale
On 11/21/05, Mitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anybody ever heard of a language called Algol ? Oh, yeah. And to think people call *Perl* line-noise! (Just came up recently on a non-prog list.) -- pDale Campbell "All the birds are laughing! C'mon, let's all join in." __

Re: Ah, another flame war in the making...

2005-11-21 Thread pDale
On 11/21/05, pDale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 11/21/05, Mitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Anybody ever heard of a language called Algol ? > > Oh, yeah. And to think people call *Perl* line-noise! (Just came up > recently on a non-prog list.) Oh, I *am* getting old... Was thinking of APL.

Re: Re: Ah, another flame war in the making...

2005-11-21 Thread wix
11/18/2005 20:16 > > > To: "$Bill Luebkert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > cc: > Subject:Re: Re: Ah, another flame war in the making... > > > Hi $Bill Luebkert - > > At 2005-11-18, 1

RE: Re: Ah, another flame war in the making...

2005-11-21 Thread Brian Raven
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roger A. Shepherd Sent: 21 November 2005 15:28 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Beau E. Cox' Cc: '$Bill Luebkert'; ''[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Re: Ah, another flame war in the making.

Re: Ah, another flame war in the making...

2005-11-21 Thread Anthony R. Nemmer
Actually there is a variant of Algol called Jovial that is still used in military avionics. I believe it was also used to program air traffic control software. There is even a Jovial web site: http://www.jovial.hill.af.mil/ And to tie this thread up and get back to Perl, take a look here ht

RE: Ah, another flame war in the making...

2005-11-21 Thread Gomez, Juan
TED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Ah, another flame war in the making... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > You got it. Watching things go "BOOM" is so much more fun than > watching them go "foof" whilst emitting a small puff of smoke Precis

Re: Ah, another flame war in the making...

2005-11-21 Thread Craig Cardimon
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You got it. Watching things go "BOOM" is so much more fun than watching them go "foof" whilst emitting a small puff of smoke Precisely so. Why kill your own pitiful hard drive when you can fry the server and crash the web site, especially during a demo for potent

Re: Re: Ah, another flame war in the making...

2005-11-21 Thread Gary Trosper
> To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 9:07 AM Subject: RE: Re: Ah, another flame war in the making... While we're reminiscing about the Elder Days, can I just mention that I once leant back in the ops chair at a CDC Cyber170 console, put my foot up against the

RE: Re: Ah, another flame war in the making...

2005-11-21 Thread Jan Dubois
Roger A. Shepherd wrote: >> worse than that--dropping the card stack you spent all morning >> punching in. > > But the magic marker trick - a diagonal stripe across the top of the > deck of cards - made it easy to sort without reference to sequence > numbers. If you are prone to dropping your

Re: Ah, another flame war in the making...

2005-11-21 Thread Deane . Rothenmaier
quot; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>         cc:        "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"         Subject:        Re: Ah, another flame war in the making... David Budd wrote: > While we're reminiscing about the Elder Days, can I just mention that I once leant back in the ops chair at a CDC Cyber170

RE: Ah, another flame war in the making...

2005-11-21 Thread Wayne Simmons
> From: Mitch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Anybody ever heard of a language called Algol? Yeah I remember learning about it in college, I think it was described as an ancient programming language dead for decades. :-p Ok now that we've all proven we participated in dinosaur hunts, shall we get ba

Re: Ah, another flame war in the making...

2005-11-21 Thread Craig Cardimon
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good old days? Define "good." How about when someone else paid the bills and made the decisions? I wonder if I can get someone to pay bills, but let me make the decisions? -- Craig --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0546-6, 11/20/2

RE: Re: Ah, another flame war in the making...

2005-11-21 Thread Roger A. Shepherd
.     "Beau E. Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/18/2005 20:16                 To:        "$Bill Luebkert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]"         cc:                 Subject:      

Re: Ah, another flame war in the making...

2005-11-21 Thread Craig Cardimon
David Budd wrote: While we're reminiscing about the Elder Days, can I just mention that I once leant back in the ops chair at a CDC Cyber170 console, put my foot up against the panel, and found a power switch... The console went off, and that sent a glitch down the power line that took the who

RE: Re: Ah, another flame war in the making...

2005-11-21 Thread Brian Raven
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21 November 2005 14:11 To: Beau E. Cox Cc: $Bill Luebkert; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; '[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: Ah, another flame war in the making... > worse than that--dropping the card stack you s

Re: Ah, another flame war in the making...

2005-11-21 Thread Mitch
On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 08:10:39 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >worse than that--dropping the card stack you spent all morning punching >in. .. or .. o stepping on and thus breaking and/or tearing the paper tape you spent all morning punching in o discovering that vital card stack you care

Re: Re: Ah, another flame war in the making...

2005-11-21 Thread Deane . Rothenmaier
TED]"         cc:                 Subject:        Re: Re: Ah, another flame war in the making... Hi $Bill Luebkert -   At 2005-11-18, 14:58:08 you wrote: >Roger A. Shepherd wrote: > >> >> Try this -- Litton L-3050 with a 16 bit boot register that you set manually >>

RE: Re: Ah, another flame war in the making...

2005-11-21 Thread Deane . Rothenmaier
ephen F \(GE Consumer & Industrial\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Beau E. Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>         cc:        "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"         Subject:        RE: Re: Ah, another flame war in the making... Ok guys both won !   What?

RE: Ah, another flame war in the making...

2005-11-21 Thread Deane . Rothenmaier
pherd                 To:        <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'Combs, Stephen F \(GE Consumer & Industrial\)'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>         cc:        "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'"         Subject:        RE: Ah, another flame war in the making... Try this -- Litton

RE: Re: Ah, another flame war in the making...

2005-11-21 Thread David Budd
While we're reminiscing about the Elder Days, can I just mention that I once leant back in the ops chair at a CDC Cyber170 console, put my foot up against the panel, and found a power switch... The console went off, and that sent a glitch down the power line that took the whole machine down. Oo

Re: Ah, another flame war in the making...

2005-11-21 Thread Deane . Rothenmaier
o:        "Combs, Stephen F (GE Consumer & Industrial)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>         cc:        "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"         Subject:        Re: Ah, another flame war in the making... Ah yes, I miss the days of front panel lights and gleaming rows of toggle switches!  One

Re: Ah, another flame war in the making...

2005-11-20 Thread Dr.Ruud
Charles Aulds schreef: > I just > haven't heard mention of "Wordstar" in years. It still is in people's muscle memory. ^KH is a good start. See also 'joe'. -- Affijn, Ruud "Gewoon is een tijger." ___ ActivePerl mailing list ActivePerl@listserv.Acti

Re: Ah, another flame war in the making...

2005-11-19 Thread Anthony R. Nemmer
; Industrial) Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Ah, another flame war in the making... Ah yes, I miss the days of front panel lights and gleaming rows of toggle switches! One contract I worked on dealed with a rack mount Sperry computer that did in fact have switches on it so it could be booted in

RE: Ah, another flame war in the making...

2005-11-18 Thread Gregory S. Williamson
$Bill wrote: > Roger A. Shepherd wrote: > > > > > Try this -- Litton L-3050 with a 16 bit boot register that you set manually > > with 16 buttons each the size of your thumbprint. The Army bought the > > hardware 15 years before the development effort got units into the field in > > 1982. > > >

Re: Re: Ah, another flame war in the making...

2005-11-18 Thread Beau E. Cox
Hi $Bill Luebkert - At 2005-11-18, 14:58:08 you wrote: >Roger A. Shepherd wrote: > >> >> Try this -- Litton L-3050 with a 16 bit boot register that you set manually >> with 16 buttons each the size of your thumbprint. The Army bought the >> hardware 15 years before the development effort got un

Re: Ah, another flame war in the making...

2005-11-18 Thread $Bill Luebkert
Roger A. Shepherd wrote: > > Try this -- Litton L-3050 with a 16 bit boot register that you set manually > with 16 buttons each the size of your thumbprint. The Army bought the > hardware 15 years before the development effort got units into the field in > 1982. > > The good old days? Hardly -

RE: Ah, another flame war in the making...

2005-11-18 Thread Roger A. Shepherd
Try this -- Litton L-3050 with a 16 bit boot register that you set manually with 16 buttons each the size of your thumbprint. The Army bought the hardware 15 years before the development effort got units into the field in 1982. The good old days? ___

RE: Ah, another flame war in the making...

2005-11-18 Thread Renshaw, Rick (C.)
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony R. Nemmer Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 4:43 PM To: Combs, Stephen F (GE Consumer & Industrial) Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Ah, another flame war in the making... Ah yes, I miss the days of front panel lights and gleaming rows of to

RE: Re: Ah, another flame war in the making...

2005-11-18 Thread Gomez, Juan
547 6438 Beeper956 768 4070 -Original Message- From: Combs, Stephen F (GE Consumer & Industrial) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 3:26 PM To: Beau E. Cox; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Gomez, Juan Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Re: Ah, another flame war in the ma

Re: Ah, another flame war in the making...

2005-11-18 Thread Anthony R. Nemmer
half Of Beau E. Cox Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 3:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Gomez, Juan Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: Ah, another flame war in the making... Hi Anthony R. Nemmer - At 2005-11-18, 08:22:34 you wrote: Yes, and before that I used Emacs on a MULTICS system. I even

Re: Re: Ah, another flame war in the making...

2005-11-18 Thread Beau E. Cox
>> >> >>Armando Gomez Guajardo >>Process Engineer >>Work Ph 956 547 6438 >>Beeper956 768 4070 >> >>-Original Message- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of >>Anthony R. Nemmer >>Sent:

RE: Ah, another flame war in the making...

2005-11-18 Thread Dennis G. Wicks
On Fri, 18 Nov 2005, Michaud, Richard1 wrote: > Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 14:24:25 -0500 > From: "Michaud, Richard1" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Gomez, Juan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: activeperl@listserv.A

RE: Ah, another flame war in the making...

2005-11-18 Thread Gomez, Juan
956 768 4070 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michaud, Richard1 Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 1:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: activeperl@listserv.ActiveState.com Subject: RE: Ah, another flame war in the making

RE: Ah, another flame war in the making...

2005-11-18 Thread Michaud, Richard1
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony R. Nemmer Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 11:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: activeperl@listserv.ActiveState.com Subject: Re: Ah, another flame war in the making... I remember using Wordstar to do Pascal programming. =) This would be in the very

RE: Ah, another flame war in the making...

2005-11-18 Thread Michaud, Richard1
tellisense!!! BTW - Neither of these have anything to do with Perl. Rick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony R. Nemmer Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 12:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: activeperl@listserv.ActiveState.com Subject: Re: Ah, ano

Re: Ah, another flame war in the making...

2005-11-18 Thread Charles Aulds
One of my first jobs (in the early 80's) involved acquiring data from The Army Authorization Documentation System (TAADS) on 9-track tapes, using an 80286-based Xenix system to put these onto a hard drive on a server system from which analysts could load the files to their PCs.  Wordstar was used b

Re: Ah, another flame war in the making...

2005-11-18 Thread Anthony R. Nemmer
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony R. Nemmer Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 11:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: activeperl@listserv.ActiveState.com Subject: Re: Ah, another flame war in the making... I remember using Wordstar to do Pascal programming. =) This would be in the very early 1980&#

RE: Ah, another flame war in the making...

2005-11-18 Thread Gomez, Juan
Behalf Of Anthony R. Nemmer Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 11:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: activeperl@listserv.ActiveState.com Subject: Re: Ah, another flame war in the making... I remember using Wordstar to do Pascal programming. =) This would be in the very early 1980's [EMAIL PROT

Re: Ah, another flame war in the making...

2005-11-18 Thread Anthony R. Nemmer
I remember using Wordstar to do Pascal programming. =) This would be in the very early 1980's [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the dreaded editor/IDE controversy! This one's been dormant ever since I've been a subscriber; good to see it coming back to life. Buwah-ha-ha-h! Let the flayings begi