Hi,
I would like to use the command line interface to run a command (or select statement)
to get an estimate of the total size of objects backed up under a particular
filesystem by a particular node for a particular date. In fact I want to achive the
same result as provided by the TSM client
Hi Ian!
Because you can't reclaim DISK volumes. TSM stores files in aggregates which
will only be freed when all files within the aggregate become expired.
Kindest regards,
Eric van Loon
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines
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From: Ian Hobbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday,
Hi Eliza!
You do want several smaller files, rather than a few very large files
because each client session will allocate a volume. File volumes cannot be
used concurrently by more than one session.
Kindest regards,
Eric van Loon
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines
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From: Eliza
We are ordering 2 IBM Blade servers for a Oracle project. They will be
running Red Hat Linux Enterprise Advanced Server 3.0.
What is the most stable TSM client code?
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HI TSMers
under ZOS , using TSM4.2
one client W2000 formated the hard disk and he needs
to restore his files
After restore operation completed .
objects failed =0
objects restored = 13766
but number of bytes transferred = 0!
some file names looks rubbish and all the files
are
We've been using 5.1.6.0 with no problems. I expect we'll move to the
latest 5.2 sometime in the not so distant future just to stay current.
David Ehresman
University of Louisville
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We are ordering 2 IBM Blade servers for a Oracle project. They will
be
On Sep 21, 2004, at 8:54 AM, hussein hasan wrote:
... some file names looks rubbish and all the files
are empty , i mean the size=0 bytes for all ...
Hussein - My first thought would be to do 'dsmc q backup -ina
FileName'
for at least one of the problem filenames and see what's in
the
If he used dsmc to run the restore, is there a chance that all he got was
directories? I've done that in the past with poorly typed dsmc commands,
albeit under Unix, not Windows.
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IBM gave a webinar on DISK ONLY backups including the advantages of DISK
vs. FILE device classes. While your mileage may vary, in general it
seems that a FILE devclass will give better performance for large pools
(read TB not GB). Two quick examples:
1) With DISK TSM keeps track of each 4K block
Well, interesting results from the changes we made to our vmtune settings
yesterday. We have one TSM instance running with JFS2 for database, logs
and storage pools, and another on all raw. We run two database backups
daily, a full and a snapshot. Last evening's snapshot was 5,000,000 pages
an
And with DISK device class there is no multi-session restore.
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From: Ian Hobbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 5:26 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: D2D on AIX
Question,
Why not use the DISK device class with RAW volumes?
bye
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Behalf Of Rushforth, Tim
And with DISK device class there is no multi-session restore.
Are you sure? I seem to recall using RESOURCEUTILIZATION to run a
multi-threaded restore or two from DISKPOOL.
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Mark Stapleton ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Hi Milton,
When TSM writes simultaneously to the copypool would
this be on the 2nd Library for duel tape backup?
Johnson, Milton wrote:
You should be able to create a PRIMARY STGPOOL named TAPEPOOL and a
COPY STGPOOL named COPYPOOL with both of them having a sequential access
(tape) DEVICE
Yes, try again. If it works it is a bug (don't tell IBM)!
If data is on a DISK device class and Tape (or file device class) you can
have 1 session from disk and other sessions from tape.
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From: Stapleton, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 21,
This is slightly OT but came up through TSM on z/OS and hoping some 3494
gurus are listening.
Started noticing lots of tape failures/abends (S613-1C) on TSM 5.1.8.x
server on z/OS.
After doing some digging and noticing the problem was almost always
occuring on 1-drive, came upon this weird
It depends upon where you define the copypool to reside. If it is
contained in the 2nd library then yes. Has anyone out there in TSM
land actually used this feature? What happens to the back-up when one
of the tape volumes fills up? Does it go into a media wait state until
the next volume is
Hi,
Since nobody else went in for the big explanation I thought I might.
AIX memory tuning can help TSM performance significantly. We run on RAW
LVs and set the AIX box to not page at all.
From our experience, the key seems to be the paging of the bufferpool.
TSM keeps this cache of DB pages
Did you also try with -c Flag too along with -P and -p Flag!!!topas will
show its effect too.
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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Peter Jones
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 10:52 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: AIX/TSM Paging
What about combining both worlds...have the DISK storage pool for your daily
backups to get the multi-session backups and faster backups, then migrate to
a FILE storage pool for retention. Now you'll get the multi-session restore,
less overhead than the large DISK pool, but still have to do
Eric,
What is the recommended volume size. I have seen someone mentioned 5G, but then
the number of volumes will explode from about 800 (current # of 3590 primary
tapes) to thousands.
How about keeping the staging space so clients backup to staging then migrate
to FILE volumes. Then every
On Sep 21, 2004, at 11:16 AM, Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU wrote:
...Eventhough the tape drive (3590B) is empty, we can't seem to
convince the
ATL that the clean has finished. Any tape mount that gets assigned to
this drive (via z/OS) eventually fails since the ATL never completes
the
mount process. ...
Thanks for the suggestions.
The library won't let us take the drive offline. I forgot to mention that
we tried that, as well. It simply says that something is in progress and
won't let us disable the drive/controller/frame ! It is very persistant
about letting this process complete !
The CE
Yes that is basically what we are doing. We are doing it more for fault
tolerance. Our file storage pool is on a different disk subsystem. If
there were major problems with that we could still do the nightly backups.
Note that if you went directly to a File storage pool you would get
Have any of you used disk primary storage pools which use windows
compressed file systems? Comments on performance, etc?
We are investigating use of a multi TB raid5 array to use as a buffer
between our local primary disk pool and the tapepool. Have seen the
posts regarding file vs disk device
Data Protection for SQL creates a separate TSM Server session
for each stripe and then waits for the SQL Server to send data
to each stripe. The SQL Server determines which data goes
to which stripe, and writes the data to it.
From what you have put into this append, it appears as if
sending the
Yes, you would still get the multi-session backup, but only to the limit of
your MAXNUMMP,right? What if you're running the FILE stgpool as collocated?
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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
Rushforth, Tim
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004
I haven't tried this setup but that makes sense. So you would ensure
MAXNUMP would be equal to the number of backup sessions you wanted. (You
want to update MAXNUMP for restores anyway when restoring from file device
class.)
I asked the presenter of the Disk Only Backup Technical Exchange about
Eliza:
At the Disk only Backups Technical Exchange, IBM recommended 2-4 GB volume
size. (This was stated by the presenter, it was not written on the PDF
presentation.) We started with 25 GB volumes and have now switched to 4 GB
volumes.
Using smaller volume sizes allows a better utilization of
Now we get into religion. IBM did offer a figure of ~5GB during the
webinar, but there are a lot of factors that would affect this such as:
REUSE DELAY: you want to be able to use those TSM DB backups
RECLAMATION THRESHOLD: A lower threshold should lead to more efficient
usage of volumes except
What do use for a reuse delay? How many pending volumes do you
average?
H. Milton Johnson
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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Rushforth, Tim
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 1:00 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: D2D on AIX
We use 5 days for reuse delay. I did a quick comparison using 25GB and 4GB
volumes on our pilot with the following results:
Disk Volumes - 25 GB Volumes
Stored Data - 236 GB
# of Disk Vols - 14 (including 2 pending volumes)
Total allocation - 14 * 25GB = 350 GB
67% Utilization
Disk Volumes -
== In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Eliza Lau [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What is the recommended volume size. I have seen someone mentioned 5G, but
then the number of volumes will explode from about 800 (current # of 3590
primary tapes) to thousands.
Consider, this doesn't really cost you much.
On Thu, 2004-09-16 at 19:08, Jim Sporer wrote:
Have you tried the dsmlabel command with the -overwrite option?
Worked. Thanks.
--
Michael Prix
The 5.2.2 Performance Tuning Guide says:
NTFS file compression should not be used on disk volumes that are used by
the TSM server, because of the potential for performance degradation.
We use client compression so I don't think it would buy us anything.
Report back if you try this out!
For now, at the 5.1.5 client level, it might be easier to put the
following in your include/exclude list:
exclude.systemobject frs
This should cause systemobject backups to skip the FRS object, and avoids
the batch file method you mentioned.
Thanks. That worked perfectly, and was a lot
True. Seek time is tiny compared to tape mounts. I am just concerned that
the TSM db has to keep track of thousands of volume. How much will it increase
the size of the db. Ours is already 90G at 70% utilized.
Eliza
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How do you perform a schedule archive for Exchange using TDP for Mail?
Thank you
James
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of James Lepre
How do you perform a schedule archive for Exchange using TDP for Mail?
IIRC, archives are not supported with most of the TDP products. The best
workaround that comes to mind quickly is to restore a backup to a test
James,
Mark is correct that there is no TSM archive function
for Data Protection for Exchange. However, there are a
few things that many customers have done:
- Set up a special NODENAME (like EXCHSRV1_ARCHIVE) that
will bind the backup objects to special management classes
that meet your desired
Hello *smers
I am having a problem with backing up a certain file structure in AIX
5.2. The file structure is about seven layers deep and in the last
directory layer are a set of 10 files that the schedule skips every
night. I checked there are no excludes, I tried to put in includes
without
On Tue, 21 Sep 2004, James Lepre wrote:
Hello *smers
I am having a problem with backing up a certain file structure in AIX
5.2. The file structure is about seven layers deep and in the last
directory layer are a set of 10 files that the schedule skips every
night. I checked there are no
Hi all
Is there a way to make a schedule to take the backup of the SQL LOG every
20 minutes ..
I'm not able to find the way to put it in minutes ...
thanks
TSM SERVER - win2000 5.2.0.2
SQL 2000 - 5.2.1.0
Luc Beaudoin
Administrateur Réseau / Network Administrator
Hopital General Juif
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Behalf Of Luc Beaudoin
Is there a way to make a schedule to take the backup of the
SQL LOG every 20 minutes ..
Now think about that for a minute; that's three log backups per hour. If
you have to restore the database 20 hours after the
thanks Mark ..
I thought of doing Full backup every 8 hours and LOG backup every 20
minutes ...
Is there a best pratice for SQL backup ??
thanks again
Luc
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I thought of doing Full backup every 8 hours and LOG backup
every 20 minutes ...
Is there a best pratice for SQL backup ??
What works best is whatever meets your business needs. Most of my
customers do a full
Hi Mark ...
So with that setup ... worst case ... they will loose 4 hours of work ???
I'm working in a hospital ... so even 1 hours lost of lab result or
patient appointment can be kind of hell
anyway .. if there is no way of putting minutes ... I will put the
minimum ... 1 hours ...
thanks a
Only a few of our clients do compression before sending backup/archive
data and since clients backup directly to the local primary disk storage
pool with no NTFS compression it should not affect them. Then later as
part of the daily maint cycle the local disk pool will get migrated to
the
I could use a little help. I am at TSM Win 4.2.3.1 on my server and need to
upgrade to 5.2 or so. Probably to 5.2.2.3.
I have a 3583 with LTO1's, all freshly upgraded to current microcode a week
or two ago.
Any special gotcha's I should look for?
From what I have skimmed (I would say
Have you done the infamous CLEANUP BACKUPGROUPS ?
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Upgrade time...
I could use a little help.
I have two instances of storage pool volume corruption due to file
compression on Windows 2003. Required a db audit of the storage to get rid
of the volumes.
It seemed like a good idea to the customer . . .
Bill Smoldt
STORServer, Inc.
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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager
How does TSM access the data on file volumes? Does it keep an offset of the start of
every file or aggregate?
If it does, then yes we could skip to the start of each file or aggregate. If it does
not, then we need to read through the volume to find the file we are going to restore.
Where we
I am also curious to see what your settings are for AIXDIRECTIO
and AIXSYNCIO. For JFS2 only, we recommend that the AIXDIRECTIO setting be
YES and AIXSYNCIO be set to no. In general, we see that if the direct i/o
is set to yes, then JFS2 is roughly equal to RLV (raw logical volumes) in
I am having a problem with backing up a certain file structure in AIX
5.2. The file structure is about seven layers deep and in the last
directory layer are a set of 10 files that the schedule skips every
night. I checked there are no excludes, I tried to put in includes
without anything
Curtis,
I'm guessing that the restriction on Maxclient might do the trick.
Shortly after updating our TSM and Oracle servers to AIX 5.2, I started
using JFS2 for some of the file systems. In a very short time, I saw page
file usage in the 60-70% range after YEARS of running less than 10%. I
Yep, Thanks for asking :)
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From: Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 4:57 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Upgrade time...
Have you done the infamous CLEANUP BACKUPGROUPS ?
Coats, Jack [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Eliza,
We are using 25 GB volumes right now without any issues but we are still collocateing
by node. We are evaluting the savings of using smaller volumes when we move to
noncollocated storage pools. I agree that it doesn't make sense to collocate file
device class pools but managment
Thanks Del.
Last night I changed everything to the defaults and used one stripe. The backup ran
in 2 or 3 minutes. I plan to run more tests next week experiementing with different
settings for stripe, buffers and such to see what yeilds the best results. Also, the
restore of the 2.5 TB DB I
I have a customer that runs log backups every hour. For some systems they can't
loose more than 5 minutes of data. For those systems they implement clustering.
Going with Marks idea can they afford to wait 10 hours for you to replay logs. In that
time they can't backup the data because you
Tim, we recently ran a bunch of tests on client side compression. In every test the
backup ran for 2 to 3 times longer. In some cases this wouldn't be a big deal when
you look at the backup alone being incremental and all. However, we also believed
that it would also cause the restore to run
Good questions. Our real world example:We went from around 8 - 12 GB/hr restore off of
tape to over 40 GB/hr from the file device classes. Our test was a file server with a
little over 300 GB of data. The File server and the TSM server both had 1 GB NIC's.
Resource utilization was set to 10
Good questions. Our real world example:We went from around 8 - 12 GB/hr restore off of
tape to over 40 GB/hr from the file device classes. Our test was a file server with a
little over 300 GB of data. The File server and the TSM server both had 1 GB NIC's.
Resource utilization was set to 10
Good questions. Our real world example:We went from around 8 - 12 GB/hr restore off of
tape to over 40 GB/hr from the file device classes. Our test was a file server with a
little over 300 GB of data. The File server and the TSM server both had 1 GB NIC's.
Resource utilization was set to 10
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