Re: netapp backup taking too long

2007-07-09 Thread Richard Sims
Debbie - Your posting contains no information on what analysis you've done to gain perspective on the problem, and the dominant area in which time is being consumed. Valuable basic information can be had by performing repeated Query SEssion commands as the backup session starts, and as it runs.

Re: netapp backup taking too long

2007-07-09 Thread John Monahan
Yes there are trade-offs. You will use more tape space similar to what you would with the TDP products, and you are limited to restoring to a NetApp instead of any old Windows server. In many cases, achieving 1/4 the restore time is worth it, especially in cases where you are already exceeding a

Re: netapp backup taking too long

2007-07-09 Thread Ben Bullock
What about the Full-incr-incr-incr...FULL methodology of the NDMP protocol? Won't you find yourself backing up and keeping identical files over and over again? Ben -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Monahan Sent: Monday, July 09

Re: netapp backup taking too long

2007-07-09 Thread John Monahan
I would upgrade your TSM server to 5.4 and use NDMP to backup the NetApp. With 5.4 you can do NDMP backups over the network much like a regular TSM client. I just did this for a customer with a million file CIFS backup taking 8 hours, down to 2.5 hours using NDMP over the network. No change in ha

Re: netapp backup taking too long

2007-07-09 Thread Curtis Preston
If you're backing up a NetApp filer via the CIFS share and are not specifically excluding the snapshots, you ARE backing them up, as they are simply a subdirectory under the share (~snapshot). Are you sure you're excluding them? As to your statement that you "did not purchase the tools required t

Re: netapp backup taking too long

2007-07-09 Thread Haberstroh, Debbie (IT)
Thanks, I'll check into the virus scan and memory. As for the snapshots, no we are not backing them up. I think we may look into that in the future but I was told we did not purchase the tools required to backup the snapshots. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[E

Re: Splitting the TSM Database into three

2007-07-09 Thread William Boyer
If you server has enough resources (CPU, memory, storage...) then put the new instance on the same server. You have to update the clients DSM.OPT file for the ones that backup to the new "instance" anyway, but instead of chaning TCPSERVERADDRESS you change TCPPORT. You currently have your TSM in

Re: netapp backup taking too long

2007-07-09 Thread Matthew Glanville
Sounds to me like the TSM Client, a Windows 2003 server needs to have more memory. Or it's virus scanning the file share as it's backing it up. Also look into the 'snapshots' that NetApp may be doing on the file shares. Are you also backing up them in addition to the current data? That could easi

Re: Splitting the TSM Database into three

2007-07-09 Thread Haberstroh, Debbie (IT)
We are in the same state, my db is 180 Gb, 87% utilized. At a high level, one of the consultants we talked to suggested loading the database onto 2 different servers and then deleting different storage pools and nodes from each one, essentially putting part of the database on each server. We a

Re: netapp backup taking too long

2007-07-09 Thread Robert Clark
YMMV: Enable NFS on the share, and mount it directly to your TSM server. I realize that it is anecdotal, but I've seen NFS backups complete in a quarter of the time compared to CIFS. Have you considered NDMP? [RC] On Jul 9, 2007, at 1:14 PM, Haberstroh, Debbie (IT) wrote: I have a netapp sh

netapp backup taking too long

2007-07-09 Thread Haberstroh, Debbie (IT)
I have a netapp share that is being backed up through a Windows 2003 server and is taking 23-25 hours to run. It is on a gigabit network, processing approximately 3.9 million items. Does anyone have any suggestions how to accelerate this job? Max mount points=7, resourceutilization=7, memory

Re: Splitting the TSM Database into three

2007-07-09 Thread Ribeiro, Ricardo
The only way that I know to split then TSM db is to create a new TSM server and export clients to it. Good luck! :) -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daad Ali Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 11:54 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [ADSM

Splitting the TSM Database into three

2007-07-09 Thread Daad Ali
Hi All, We are discussing a way of splitting our TSM database. It is become very big and slow. We want to split it into 2 or 3(one will be the manager of the other two) I don't know how to split it so I am looking for a procedure/steps on how to do that. Also, after splitting the data

Any recommendations for windows clients optimum performance on a GIGE network

2007-07-09 Thread Timothy Hughes
Hello all, I know I poised this question in the past, but I don't think their were any responses so I just thought I would try again. I put some windows clients on a dedicated GigE network does anyone have any optimum values for using GigE for Windows clients on a TSM server running on AIX 5.3.

Can TSM reliably share drives in 3584/TS3500, without a library manager?

2007-07-09 Thread Robert Clark
Three TSM 5.2.7.0 Servers on AIX 5.3. Recently moved from a shared 3494 (20 each 3592-J1A) to a shared 3584 (24 each 3592-E05). Each of the TSM servers sees two non-shared control path drives, and 18 shared drives. (We do plan to upgrade to TSM 5.4, and to reconfigure for a library manager and

Re: tar with LTO2

2007-07-09 Thread Jim Zajkowski
On Jul 9, 2007, at 10:46 AM, Michael Green wrote: However, tar'ing the actual target directory revealed that the data is flowing at extremely low rates - less than 100kb/sec. In the few cases we've had to write actual tars to tape, we usually run it through a double-buffer using dd: tar cf

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2007-07-09 Thread Darrius Plantz
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Re: Lost in TSM licensing

2007-07-09 Thread Bell, Charles (Chip)
We were audited. We simply trued-up, reporting the most recent client/TDP deployments (which were quite a few). At least that was my understanding. They did want a look at our entire environment. Anyone else want to comment? :) -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAI

Re: tar with LTO2

2007-07-09 Thread Len Boyle
Michael, Look at the b option to increase your blocking size. Use man tar on your host to check for the fine print. If your tar program will let you do it, aim for 256K block sizes. len -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael G

Re: Lost in TSM licensing

2007-07-09 Thread Haberstroh, Debbie (IT)
Just out of curiosity, how many people have been audited? Did your entire environment have to comply with the new per processor licensing or only items purchased since the new process went into effect? Debbie Haberstroh TSM Administrator -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager

Re: tar with LTO2

2007-07-09 Thread Richard Sims
On Jul 9, 2007, at 10:46 AM, Michael Green wrote: However, tar'ing the actual target directory revealed that the data is flowing at extremely low rates - less than 100kb/sec. Two major factors affect this: 1. File system state, fragmentation, and disk capabilities. 2. The tar block size choi

tar with LTO2

2007-07-09 Thread Michael Green
This post is a bit offtopic, but still I decided to send ti here because it's probably one of the very few places where large amount backup administrators that are invested in IBM equipment come together. My question is related to using old school tar with IBM LTO2 drives. I was asked to archive

Re: Upgrading TSM server 5.2 to 5.3

2007-07-09 Thread William Boyer
This is from the README.SRV from the 5.3.2.1 patch level. If you check out the readme for the 5.3.2.0 base level I'm sure it'll probably be the same: Migration and LAN-free Considerations * Only storage agents Versions 5.2.3, 5.2.4, and 5.3 are supported by Ti

Re: tdp for oracle on win2k3

2007-07-09 Thread Neil Rasmussen
DP Oracle needs to match the bit architecture of the Oracle database. Please verify that the DP Oracle package you are installing is indeed 32bit package if your Oracle is 32bit. Regards, Neil Rasmussen Software Development Data Protection for Oracle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Remco Post <[EMAIL PROT

Re: tdp for oracle on win2k3

2007-07-09 Thread Remco Post
Wu Tony wrote: > Yes~ > TDP version reference target database. > 32bit tdp for 32bit Oracle. > ok, customer decided that having 32 bit windows nor having 64 bits oracle is an option, and since the tdp can only be 32 bits on 32 bit winodws or 64 bit on 64 bit windows, he is a bit unhappy. > > 2007

Re: Upgrading TSM server 5.2 to 5.3

2007-07-09 Thread CAYE PIERRE
Hi, What is the Storage Agent level ? Normaly, it should be at the same level as TSM server. Thanks, Pierre -Message d'origine- De : ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] De la part de zareyna salim Envoyé : lundi 9 juillet 2007 13:45 À : ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Objet : [ADS

Re: Upgrading TSM server 5.2 to 5.3

2007-07-09 Thread Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU
Shouldn't be. Going up is usually not a problem. The older clients won't get any of the new server features. I am running 5.4 servers with clients going back to V4 (VMS, old AIX, IRIX, etc). Zoltan Forray Virginia Commonwealth University Office

Upgrading TSM server 5.2 to 5.3

2007-07-09 Thread zareyna salim
Hi all, Just a quick one.. Is there going to be a problem if the TSM server will be upgrading to 5.3.5 but the clients and Storage Agent remain to version 5.2.9? Do I need to restart the server after installing TSM for BAC and TSM for SAN? Thanks, Regards, Zareyna Salim No viru

Re: AW: [ADSM-L] Backup/Archive our Document Management System

2007-07-09 Thread A Koti Reddy
Hi We have aix 5.1 p610 ibm pseries server Upgraded firmware.migrated to aix 5.3 After reboot keyboard is not working. When try to login using login dialog box ,user name is not typing Pl advice Koti Reddy Aix admin