Antwort: ADSM-L Digest - 21 Mar 2016 to 22 Mar 2016 (#2016-56)

2016-03-22 Thread Markus Engelhard
Thanks David, Bjoern for the great hints! We are testing the self-signed certificates created by the server instance, so at this stage, no third-party certificate is involved, using the dsmadmc native commandline (no hub-server, no oc, no server-to-server, all down to absolute basics. Using gskit

Re: Real world deduplication rates with TSM 7.1 and container pools

2016-03-22 Thread Erwann SIMON
Hi all, TSM deduplication is effective combined with compression. Without compression, I'm not sure that it worths what it costs (1:2,5 ratio or 65% is what I generally see with mixed data and "standard" retention). You all should whatch this Tricia Jiang's video on YouTube (from 7:11) : https

cloud pools, directory containers, dedup etc.

2016-03-22 Thread Lee, Gary
Just jumping into the cloud storage arena with tsm. Just installed server 7.1.5 to experiment with cloud storage. We have been mandated to replace our largely tape based environment with amazon cloud storage. I know very little of tsm's implementation of this, and how it may be used. I see lots

Re: SSL 256 on Server version 7.1.4.100

2016-03-22 Thread Bjoern Rackoll
Thanks. TSM support also came up with this one as we logged the PMR. But unfortunately, it does not apply to us, as we didn't delete the 'TSM Server SelfSigned SHA key' from the certificate database. Bjoern > I just noticed that apar IT12010: SERVER-TO-SERVER SSL COMMUNICATION FAILS > USING

Re: Deduplication questions, again

2016-03-22 Thread Nixon, Charles D. (David)
I'll third the odd percentages... using 7.1.3.100. tsm: TSMPRD02>select sum(reporting_mb) from OCCUPANCY where stgpool_name='SASCONT0' Unnamed[1] -- 182520798.90 tsm: TSMPRD02>q stg sascont0 Storage Device

Re: SSL 256 on Server version 7.1.4.100

2016-03-22 Thread David Ehresman
I just noticed that apar IT12010: SERVER-TO-SERVER SSL COMMUNICATION FAILS USING CA-SIGNED CERTIFICATES is fixed in TSM server 7.1.5.0. David -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Bjoern Rackoll Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 10:10 AM

Re: Real world deduplication rates with TSM 7.1 and container pools

2016-03-22 Thread Del Hoobler
Posting again... seems like the first one was rejected... Hello, Correct, current client-side compression is not affected. Spectrum Protect is targeting client-side compression integrated with dedup and this new compression later this year.

Re: Deduplication questions, again

2016-03-22 Thread PAC Brion Arnaud
Matthew, Just a question : how do you know the size of pre-dedup data ? Did you make use of backup reports on each clients to get that information, or built some query based on dedupstats table, or anything else ? Here again, I cannot seem to find coherent information in TSM output ... Let's

Re: Real world deduplication rates with TSM 7.1 and container pools

2016-03-22 Thread J. Pohlmann
If you are using node replication, you could re-replicate the data and get it compressed (both ways). It may be a bit much work, feasible perhaps for selected nodes. Joerg Pohlmann -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Del Hoobler Sent

Re: Real world deduplication rates with TSM 7.1 and container pools

2016-03-22 Thread Del Hoobler
Hello, Correct, current client-side compression is not affected. Spectrum Protect is targeting client-side compression integrated with dedup and this new compression later this year. As for replication, if the target storage pool is a container pool with compression enabled, the data extents a

Re: Real world deduplication rates with TSM 7.1 and container pools

2016-03-22 Thread PAC Brion Arnaud
@Del, Additional question : if replicating compressed data, will the data be transmitted compressed or uncompressed ? Cheers. Arnaud -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Alexander Heindl Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 3:19 PM To:

Re: Real world deduplication rates with TSM 7.1 and container pools

2016-03-22 Thread Alexander Heindl
Hi, but already client side compressed data isn't affected, isn't it? what if data is replicated. Is that data then compressed? Regards, Alex Von:Del Hoobler An: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU, Datum: 22.03.2016 15:14 Betreff:Re: [ADSM-L] Real world deduplication rates with TSM 7.1 an

Re: Real world deduplication rates with TSM 7.1 and container pools

2016-03-22 Thread Del Hoobler
Hi David, No. Only newly stored data will be compressed. Del "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" wrote on 03/22/2016 09:41:27 AM: > From: David Ehresman > To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU > Date: 03/22/2016 09:42 AM > Subject: Re: Real world deduplicatio

Re: SSL 256 on Server version 7.1.4.100

2016-03-22 Thread Bjoern Rackoll
Hi Markus, > has anyone been able to use ssl with the cert256.arm? The ssl connection > using cert.arm runs fine, but we would like to move on to the cert256.arm. > We tried it on a Solaris10 server with ISP 7.1.4.100 and on a Windows 2012 > Server with ISP 7.1.4.0, but have not been able to conne

Re: Real world deduplication rates with TSM 7.1 and container pools

2016-03-22 Thread David Ehresman
Del, After upgrading to 7.1.5 is there a way to get pre-existing container data compressed? David -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Del Hoobler Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 5:53 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L]

Re: Deduplication questions, again

2016-03-22 Thread Matthew McGeary
Arnaud, I too am seeing odd percentages where containerpools and dedup is concerned. I have a small remote server pair that protects ~23 TB of pre dedup data, but my containerpools show an occupancy of ~10 TB, which should be a data reduction of over 50%. However, a q stg on the containerpool on

SSL 256 on Server version 7.1.4.100

2016-03-22 Thread Markus Engelhard
Hi, has anyone been able to use ssl with the cert256.arm? The ssl connection using cert.arm runs fine, but we would like to move on to the cert256.arm. We tried it on a Solaris10 server with ISP 7.1.4.100 and on a Windows 2012 Server with ISP 7.1.4.0, but have not been able to connect the admin in

Re: Help on Directory Container

2016-03-22 Thread Robert Ouzen
Hello Guys Thanks’ a lot for the output…. Really appreciate Best Regards Robert Ouzen Haifa University Israel From: Ron Delaware [mailto:ron.delaw...@us.ibm.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 1:30 PM To: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager Cc: רוברט אוזן Subject: Fw: [ADSM-L] Help on Directory Container

Fw: [ADSM-L] Help on Directory Container

2016-03-22 Thread Ron Delaware
Robert, you run protect stgpool prior to replicate node. By doing the protect first, you can reduce the amount of traffic needed for the replicate node process. Also, without performing protect stgpool, you loose the ability to use REPAIR STGPOOL as it depends on Protect Stgpool being performe

Re: Real world deduplication rates with TSM 7.1 and container pools

2016-03-22 Thread Del Hoobler
Hi Arnaud, I was having a conversation about this other day. With today's social media blitz, it can become an overload of information and different people like to learn about things in different ways. Some people told me they like something in their InBox. Others said their InBox was too full

Deduplication questions, again

2016-03-22 Thread PAC Brion Arnaud
Hi All, Another question in regards of TSM container based deduplicated pools ... Are you experiencing the same behavior than this : using "q stg f=d" targeting a deduped container based storage pool, I observe following output : q stg f=d Storage Pool Name: CONT_STG

Re: Real world deduplication rates with TSM 7.1 and container pools

2016-03-22 Thread PAC Brion Arnaud
Hi Del, Thanks for notifying that new feature : I will test it immediately ! I'm however sorry to inform you that contrarily to your assumption, and despite the fact that I subscribed to "IBM my notifications" as well as to " Technical Support Newsletter", both related to Spectrum protect, that