Fw: DISASTER: How to do a LOT of restores?

2008-01-22 Thread Nicholas Cassimatis
Roger, If you know which nodes are to be restored, or at least have some that are good suspects, you might want to run some move nodedata commands to try to get their data more contiguous. If you can get some of that DASD that's coming real soon, even just to borrow it, that would help out

Re: Fw: DISASTER: How to do a LOT of restores?

2008-01-22 Thread Roger Deschner
MOVE NODEDATA looks like it is going to be the key. I will simply move the affected nodes into a disk storage pool, or into our existing collocated tape storage pool. I presume it should be possible to restart MOVE NODEDATA, in case it has to be interrupted or if the server crashes, because what

Re: Fw: DISASTER: How to do a LOT of restores?

2008-01-22 Thread Andrew Carlson
Do you have any spare disk storage at all? If you do, you could start staging some of the more important restores to disk using move nodedata. On Jan 22, 2008 11:35 AM, Whitlock, Brett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good Luck, Roger! -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager

Re: Fw: DISASTER: How to do a LOT of restores?

2008-01-22 Thread James R Owen
Roger, You certainly want to get a best guess list of likely priority#1 restores. If your tapes really are mostly uncollocated, you will probably experience lots of tape volume contention when you attempt to use MAXPRocess 1 or to run multiple simultaneous restore, move nodedata, or export node

Re: Fw: DISASTER: How to do a LOT of restores?

2008-01-22 Thread Whitlock, Brett
Good Luck, Roger! -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roger Deschner Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 10:14 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Fw: DISASTER: How to do a LOT of restores? MOVE NODEDATA looks like it is

Re: Fw: DISASTER: How to do a LOT of restores?

2008-01-22 Thread Curtis Preston
James, I like this idea a lot. The disadvantage, of course, is that it requires a separate server. Is there a way to use this same (or similar) idea to move just the active files into an active data pool (as suggested by Maria), given that he's running 5.5 and has access to that feature? ---

Re: Fw: DISASTER: How to do a LOT of restores?

2008-01-22 Thread Maria Ilieva
The procedure of creating active data pools (assuming you have TSM version 5.4 or more) is the following: 1. Create FILE type DISK pool or sequential TAPE pool specifying pooltype=ACTIVEDATA 2.Update node's domain(s) specifying ACTIVEDESTINATION=created active data pool 3. Issue COPY ACTIVEDATA

Re: Fw: DISASTER: How to do a LOT of restores?

2008-01-22 Thread Curtis Preston
Are files that are no longer active automatically expired from the activedata pool when you perform the latest COPY ACTIVEDATA? This would mean that, at some point, you would need to do reclamation on this pool, right? It would seem to me that this would be a much better answer to TOP's

Re: Fw: DISASTER: How to do a LOT of restores?

2008-01-22 Thread Henrik Vahlstedt
Hi, So far so good, move data, backup sets, active copyppool. You got plenty to work with. I just wanted to add a example restore command. Dsmc restore e:\?* e:\ -subdir=y or equivalent. In tests I did with 600k files I reduced restore times from 4h17min to 52min. Processing time without '?' in

Fw: DISASTER: How to do a LOT of restores?

2008-01-22 Thread Nicholas Cassimatis
For this scenario, the problem with Active Storagepools is it's a pool-to-pool relationship. So ALL active data in a storagepool would be copied to the Active Pool. Not knowing what percentage of the nodes on the TSM Server will be restored, but assuming they're all in one storage pool, you'd

Re: Fw: DISASTER: How to do a LOT of restores?

2008-01-22 Thread Roger Deschner
Thanks Curtis, and everyone else too. It's great to have this much assembled expertise out there. Preliminary indications from a quick look at the building are that we're going to be dealing with a count of nodes in the dozens, not hundreds. The next step is for the IT guy of the affected

Re: Fw: DISASTER: How to do a LOT of restores?

2008-01-22 Thread Curtis Preston
AhHAH! So this would only really work if he has a storage pool with clients that should be copied in this manner. That makes sense. What about the expiration of inactive files the next time you do a copy activedata? It doesn't say in the manual that this is what it does, but you would think it

Re: Fw: DISASTER: How to do a LOT of restores?

2008-01-22 Thread Steven Harris
Nick I may well have a flawed understanding here but Set up an active-data pool clone the domain containing the servers requiring recovery set the ACTIVEDATAPOOL parameter on the cloned domain move the servers requiring recovery to the new domain, Run COPY ACTIVEDATA on the primary tape pool

Re: Fw: DISASTER: How to do a LOT of restores? [like Steve H said, but...]

2008-01-22 Thread James R Owen
DR strategy using an ACTIVEdata STGpool is like Steve H said, but with minor additions and a major (but temporary) caveat: COPY ACTIVEdata is not quite ready for this DR strategy yet: See APAR PK59507: COPy ACTIVEdata performance can be significantly degraded (until TSM 5.4.3/5.5.1) unless

Fw: DISASTER: How to do a LOT of restores?

2008-01-22 Thread Nicholas Cassimatis
Obviously, being in Chicago this week has frozen my brain (or maybe I'm downwind from UIC...). Yes, you're correct - it is Domain and Storagepool combined. Nick Cassimatis - Forwarded by Nicholas Cassimatis/Raleigh/IBM on 01/22/2008 09:42 PM - ADSM: Dist Stor Manager

Fw: DISASTER: How to do a LOT of restores?

2008-01-22 Thread Nicholas Cassimatis
Curtis, Suffering Frozen Brain Syndrome - it's Domain and Storagepool, combined, that make data eligible to be put in the Activedata pool. Nick Cassimatis - Forwarded by Nicholas Cassimatis/Raleigh/IBM on 01/22/2008 09:45 PM - ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on

Re: Fw: DISASTER: How to do a LOT of restores? [like Steve H said, but...]

2008-01-22 Thread Curtis Preston
Bummer. :( But when it's fixed, I sure think it sounds like a better solution to this situation than the traditional answers -- even if only used on demand. --- W. Curtis Preston Backup Blog @ www.backupcentral.com VP Data Protection, GlassHouse Technologies -Original Message- From: