Re: TSM performance very poor, Recovery log is being pinned

2007-08-01 Thread Robert Clark
Switching to RLV: Some CPU time that would be used for OS overhead for filesystem is freed. This could be used for running one more TSM instance? Memory that would be used for filesystem cache is freed. This could be used by TSM for buffers? I don't know what effect either would have on overal

Re: TSM performance very poor, Recovery log is being pinned

2007-08-01 Thread Richard Sims
On Jul 31, 2007, at 11:59 PM, Stuart Lamble wrote: I am not going to enter into a debate about the relative merits of raw volumes versus files on filesystems, as I have insufficient direct knowledge to judge either way (I'm trusting a more senior colleague to make the right call there. :) I'll

Re: TSM performance very poor, Recovery log is being pinned

2007-07-31 Thread Stuart Lamble
On 29/07/2007, at 10:03 PM, Stapleton, Mark wrote: From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager on behalf of Craig Ross TSM is installed on Solaris 10 This is something that popped right out for me. Do you have your storage pools located on raw logical volumes or mounted filesystems? If the latter, that mig

Re: TSM performance very poor, Recovery log is being pinned

2007-07-31 Thread Wanda Prather
In the TSM admin guide for AIX, look up "raw volumes". It has examples. > Evening I have been watching these comments with interest as we are > currently in the process of building a new TSM server. > Discussing with colleagues we are baffled by how you create the TSM log > or DB on a raw present

Re: TSM performance very poor, Recovery log is being pinned

2007-07-31 Thread Richard Rhodes
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Re: TSM performance very poor, Recovery log is being pinned

2007-07-31 Thread Mark Scott
Evening I have been watching these comments with interest as we are currently in the process of building a new TSM server. Discussing with colleagues we are baffled by how you create the TSM log or DB on a raw presented Lun without creating at least a JFS for a mount point first. We are running AI

Re: TSM performance very poor, Recovery log is being pinned

2007-07-31 Thread Craig Ross
Thanks guys. All this advise is much appreciated. For the record my TSM servers seems to have returned to more normal routines. However the log is still being pinned and log fills up to about 12% then flushes, not ideal but acceptable. I am starting to wonder if my install has always had the log p

Re: TSM performance very poor, Recovery log is being pinned

2007-07-30 Thread Roger Deschner
. I think you are right about the Log - it need not be spread across multiple volumes. It's only got one writer. Your RAID type can affect the performance of the Disk Storage Pools and the Database dramatically. In particular, RAID5 is very poorly suited for this, because it is 50% writes. RAID5 i

Re: TSM performance very poor, Recovery log is being pinned

2007-07-30 Thread Andrew Carlson
Could you elaborate on why the log should be in smaller volumes? I have always heard the DB should, because it opens multiple threads with multiple volumes, but since the log is sequentially written to for the most part, I can't figure out why that should be in multiple volumes. Thanks. On 7/30/

Re: TSM performance very poor, Recovery log is being pinned

2007-07-30 Thread Charles A Hart
Your DB and Log shold be RAW as well, and in small vols. (ie 12GB log should be in 2-3GB VOls, DB, vols, depengin on size of db should be 5-10GB vols. Also try to make sure the raw logical vols are evenly spread accross as many LUNs as possible. Charles Hart "Stapleton, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: TSM performance very poor, Recovery log is being pinned

2007-07-29 Thread Stapleton, Mark
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager on behalf of Craig Ross >TSM is installed on Solaris 10 This is something that popped right out for me. Do you have your storage pools located on raw logical volumes or mounted filesystems? If the latter, that might be your problem. Solaris has traditionally had inc

Re: TSM performance very poor, Recovery log is being pinned

2007-07-27 Thread Craig Ross
Thanks for all input guys, Firstly sorry for lack of detail. TSM is installed on Solaris 10, No I did not do any benchmarking, as we were not replacing any existing setup just adding more, I have 6 LTO drives already installed and about 17TB of SAN storage which is Primary Random, I have since ad

Re: TSM performance very poor, Recovery log is being pinned

2007-07-27 Thread Ian-IT Smith
Do the client backup sessions pin the log? What is the throughput on the actual client session and are these backups direct to disk? If the sessions are cancelled does the system come back to life? 15 TB of SATA sounds like a lot of storage. how has this been added/configured- What raw throughput

Re: TSM performance very poor, Recovery log is being pinned

2007-07-27 Thread Lawrence Clark
Assuming the SATA are on AIX, were the logical volumes set up to hold the volumes defined as JFS2? >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/27/2007 2:30:54 PM >>> Do the client backup sessions pin the log? What is the throughput on the actual client session and are these backups direct to disk? If the sessions ar

Re: TSM performance very poor, Recovery log is being pinned

2007-07-27 Thread Robert Clark
Is the SATA setup as disk storage pools? Is it filesystem or raw logical volumes? What is the OS? vmstat or top/topas may give some ideas. What is the network transport? Fast ethernet? [RC] On Jul 27, 2007, at 2:49 AM, Craig Ross wrote: 10 days ago I Recently added 15TB of SATA storage and a

Re: TSM performance very poor, Recovery log is being pinned

2007-07-27 Thread Joy Hanna
You might also check your diskpool volume count. If its low, assuming your doing raw logical volumes, you might want to try decreasing the size of your volumes and thereby increasing the count of your volumes . A small number of large volumes does not allow several clients or processes to stream da

Re: TSM performance very poor, Recovery log is being pinned

2007-07-27 Thread Richard Sims
Craig - You need to perform analysis to identify problem cause, where the TSM Problem Determination Guide and Performance Tuning Guide will help. Log pinning is due to prolonged transactions, and is aggravated by sluggish networking and sluggish TSM servicing of transactions (often due to underl