Re: mediawait during backup to disk

2010-05-03 Thread Howard Coles
Smaller storage pool volumes and more of them. Then TSM only has to open and use what it needs at the time, and more processes can be run successfully at the same time. Of course this all depends on how much RAM and processor power you have as well. The Single LUN shouldn't be a problem as long

Re: mediawait during backup to disk

2010-05-03 Thread Michael Green
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Howard Coles howard.co...@ardenthealth.com wrote: Smaller storage pool volumes and more of them.  Then TSM only has to open and use what it needs at the time, and more processes can be run successfully at the same time.  Of course this all depends on how much

Re: mediawait during backup to disk

2010-05-03 Thread ADSM-L
I'm fairly sure I remember an IBM recommendation that suggested you should try to have broadly as many individual disk volumes defined in a stgpool as you will have concurrent client sessions writing to that stgpool. David McClelland London On 3 May 2010, at 13:48, Howard Coles

Re: mediawait during backup to disk

2010-05-03 Thread Richard Rhodes
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Re: mediawait during backup to disk

2010-05-03 Thread Keith Arbogast
The server has 16 processors and 128 GB ram. From Michael Green: Have you actually configured queue depth...? No, we haven't. It is set at the default of '16'. It can be as high as 256. The HBA's are HP FC1242SR, which are re-branded QLogic QLE2462. All best wishes, Keith

Re: mediawait during backup to disk

2010-05-03 Thread Allen S. Rout
On Mon, 3 May 2010 13:55:52 +1000, Mehdi Salehi ezzo...@googlemail.com said: Here is my question from the group: Which one performs better? a- One big TSM volume on a 2TB LUN b- More than one TSM volumes on a 2TB LUN If it's SATA RAID5 underneath, I'd be scared to do more than 4 or so,

Re: mediawait during backup to disk

2010-05-02 Thread Keith Arbogast
Allen, Thank you for that bit of advice. It was just what I needed. The question of how small to make the TSM volumes was on my mind. Our disk pools are on Hitachi AMS2300 SAS drives. We have use of six 2 TB LUNs. One volume group is defined per LUN, then 14 TSM volumes per VG at 125 GB. The

Re: mediawait during backup to disk

2010-05-02 Thread Mehdi Salehi
- One point is that you gain virtually nothing by 6 volume groups. You can put the six LUNs in a single VG, no performance difference I believe. - Have you tuned the queue_depth of the LUNs based on AMS documentation. Check it by lsattr -El hdiskX Here is my question from the group: Which one

Re: mediawait during backup to disk

2010-04-30 Thread Allen S. Rout
On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 11:07:35 -0400, Keith Arbogast warbo...@indiana.edu said: What does it mean when a node incurs mediawait during a backup to disk? It means that the process was blocking on disk writes. Your disk (usually) can't write as fast as your various networks can pass you data.

Re: mediawait during backup to disk

2010-04-30 Thread John D. Schneider
Keith, You could mitigate this somewhat by creating more disk storage pool volumes, and spreading them across more physical disks. I don't entirely agree with Allen that your disk pool is going to be slower than your incoming networks. It is certainly possible to build a disk storage pool

Re: mediawait during backup to disk

2010-04-30 Thread Nast, Jeff P.
Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of John D. Schneider Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 10:33 AM To: ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu Subject: Re: mediawait during backup to disk Keith, You could mitigate this somewhat by creating more disk storage pool volumes, and spreading them across more

Re: mediawait during backup to disk

2010-04-30 Thread Keith Arbogast
Thanks to all who offered advice. I may have been taking the book definition of mediawait too literally -- as pertaining to removable volumes, not disk. I was able to correlate the MediaWait condition showed by TSMManager with dsmaccnt.log records for the nodes last night. 20 nodes were

Re: mediawait during backup to disk

2010-04-30 Thread Robert Clark
Are these windows clients? Is the dirmc (directory management class) pointed to disk or tape? You may have windows clients queueing up to write their directories to tape. [RC] From: Keith Arbogast warbo...@indiana.edu To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Date: 04/30/2010 08:09 AM Subject: [ADSM-L]

Re: mediawait during backup to disk

2010-04-30 Thread Allen S. Rout
On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 14:07:56 -0400, Keith Arbogast warbo...@indiana.edu said: I'll redefine smaller, more plentiful TSM volumes for this pool, and see if that keeps the sand out of my socks. Heh. :) Good luck. Don't go nuts with the smaller direction. There are major performance problems

Re: mediawait during backup to disk

2010-04-30 Thread Keith Arbogast
Robert, Thank you. It is a mix of Windows and Linux clients. And, we impose a cloptset on all clients that includes a dirmc that writes to disk. Best wishes, Keith