Re: Survey Question for Virtual Tape Users: What Vendors are you using for Virtual Tape?

2006-12-12 Thread Paul Zarnowski
ECTED] On Behalf Of David E Ehresman Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 11:32 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Survey Question for Virtual Tape Users: What Vendors are you using for Virtual Tape? The other advantage of a VTL over a disk subsystem when implementing an all disk stor

Re: Survey Question for Virtual Tape Users: What Vendors are you using for Virtual Tape?

2006-12-12 Thread Allen S. Rout
>> On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 15:24:12 -0500, Orville Lantto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > The killer feature of VTLs is data de-duplication, which is beginning to > be available. No, no! An elephant is like a snake! [1] The killer feature of VTLs is that it permits underutilized tapes with just a fe

Re: Survey Question for Virtual Tape Users: What Vendors are you using for Virtual Tape?

2006-12-11 Thread Orville Lantto
PROTECTED] www.glasshouse.com -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Stapleton Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 2:08 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Survey Question for Virtual Tape Users: What Vendors are you using for

Re: Survey Question for Virtual Tape Users: What Vendors are you using for Virtual Tape?

2006-12-11 Thread Mark Stapleton
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roger Deschner >I keep hearing it said, that if you're going to buy a great big disk >array for TSM, that it works better if you let TSM know it has disks >(DEVCLASS=FILE), than if you lie and try to tell it they are virtual >tape

Re: Survey Question for Virtual Tape Users: What Vendors are you using for Virtual Tape?

2006-12-08 Thread Robert Clark
Keeping large filesystems mounted ties up OS memory? Creating storage pool volumes ties up TSM database space? Keeping filesystems mounted all the time increases the likelihood that a crash will lead to corruption? How much perl scripting would be required to emulate an external type library by m

Re: Survey Question for Virtual Tape Users: What Vendors are you using for Virtual Tape?

2006-12-07 Thread Kelly Lipp
M To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Survey Question for Virtual Tape Users: What Vendors are you using for Virtual Tape? The other advantage of a VTL over a disk subsystem when implementing an all disk storagepool is that lan-free will work to a VTL but not to FILE disk (without San

Re: Survey Question for Virtual Tape Users: What Vendors are you using for Virtual Tape?

2006-12-07 Thread David E Ehresman
] On Behalf Of Roger Deschner Sent: donderdag 7 december 2006 9:35 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Survey Question for Virtual Tape Users: What Vendors are you using for Virtual Tape? I keep hearing it said, that if you're going to buy a great big disk array for TSM, that it works better if

Re: Survey Question for Virtual Tape Users: What Vendors are you using for Virtual Tape?

2006-12-07 Thread David E Ehresman
Roger, What do you recommend as a RESOURCEUTILIZATION for restores of large files systems? David >>> Roger Deschner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 12/7/2006 3:35 AM >>> I keep hearing it said, that if you're going to buy a great big disk array for TSM, that it works better if you let TSM know it has disks

Re: Survey Question for Virtual Tape Users: What Vendors are you using for Virtual Tape?

2006-12-07 Thread Nancy L Backhaus
06 04:36 PM Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU cc: Subject: Re: Survey Question for Virtual Tape Users: What Vendors are you using for Virtual Tape? Based on your config I'm guessing you're having troubl

Re: Survey Question for Virtual Tape Users: What Vendors are you using for Virtual Tape?

2006-12-07 Thread Loon, E.J. van - SPLXM
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roger Deschner Sent: donderdag 7 december 2006 9:35 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Survey Question for Virtual Tape Users: What Vendors are you using for Virtual Tape? I keep hearing it said, that if you're going to buy a great big disk array for TSM, that it

Re: Survey Question for Virtual Tape Users: What Vendors are you using for Virtual Tape?

2006-12-07 Thread Roger Deschner
I keep hearing it said, that if you're going to buy a great big disk array for TSM, that it works better if you let TSM know it has disks (DEVCLASS=FILE), than if you lie and try to tell it they are virtual tapes. Cheaper too, because you don't have that VTL layer in there. Simpler to administer be

Re: Survey Question for Virtual Tape Users: What Vendors are you using for Virtual Tape?

2006-12-06 Thread Dearman, Richard
pport, so > you have an idea just how fast you can push AND /pull 1 TB of data IN A > SINGLE LARGE FILE. There are a lot of VTL's on the market, and they all > have different throughput ratings. > > Wanda Prather > "I/O, I/O, It's all about I/O" -(me) >

Re: Survey Question for Virtual Tape Users: What Vendors are you using for Virtual Tape?

2006-12-06 Thread Andy Huebner
st Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy L Backhaus Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 2:20 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [ADSM-L] Survey Question for Virtual Tape Users: What Vendors are you using for Virtual Tape? Background: Tivoli Storage Manager Extended Edition 5.3.2.2 Op

Re: Survey Question for Virtual Tape Users: What Vendors are you using for Virtual Tape?

2006-12-06 Thread Kelly Lipp
06, 2006 3:09 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Survey Question for Virtual Tape Users: What Vendors are you using for Virtual Tape? I concur with Kelly's evaluation. Where VTL's really shine: -On restores of multiple files (like restoring a large direc

Re: Survey Question for Virtual Tape Users: What Vendors are you using for Virtual Tape?

2006-12-06 Thread Prather, Wanda
rom: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelly Lipp Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 4:36 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Survey Question for Virtual Tape Users: What Vendors are you using for Virtual Tape? Based on your config I'm guessing you're ha

Re: Survey Question for Virtual Tape Users: What Vendors are you using for Virtual Tape?

2006-12-06 Thread Kelly Lipp
vey Question for Virtual Tape Users: What Vendors are you using for Virtual Tape? Background: Tivoli Storage Manager Extended Edition 5.3.2.2 Op System AIX 5.3 ML 3 Nightly Backup 2 -2 1/2 TB Library - ADIC I2000 Scalar 18 LTO Tape Drives LTO 2 Tapes 600 slots Clients - 135 (Wintel) AIX -26 (

Re: Survey Question for Virtual Tape Users: What Vendors are you using for Virtual Tape?

2006-12-06 Thread Larry Peifer
12/06/2006 12:19 PM Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" To ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject [ADSM-L] Survey Question for Virtual Tape Users: What Vendors are you using for Virtual Tape? Background: Tivoli Storage Manager Extended Edition 5.3.2.2 Op System AIX 5.3 ML 3

Survey Question for Virtual Tape Users: What Vendors are you using for Virtual Tape?

2006-12-06 Thread Nancy L Backhaus
Background: Tivoli Storage Manager Extended Edition 5.3.2.2 Op System AIX 5.3 ML 3 Nightly Backup 2 -2 1/2 TB Library - ADIC I2000 Scalar 18 LTO Tape Drives LTO 2 Tapes 600 slots Clients - 135 (Wintel) AIX -26 (Sybase, SQL, and DB2) We are looking into Virtual Tape Technology for our environment.