Collocation groups, and the management thereof.

2010-04-02 Thread Allen S. Rout
I'm weeding my collocgroups, and I decided my management script is getting smooth enough that I'd consider exposing it for you-all to take and beat upon if you desire. Throw tomatoes, kibitz, fix my bustedness, whatever. :) http://nersp.osg.ufl.edu/~asr/media/cg/ In there are: the script

Re: Collocation Groups Reclamation and Restore

2010-03-16 Thread Laura Lantz
[mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Wolfgang J Moeller Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 6:07 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Collocation Groups Reclamation and Restore Fred Johanson writes: Once a tape has been mounted for a collocation group's data, all nodes in that group

Re: Collocation Groups Reclamation and Restore

2010-03-16 Thread Michael Green
-- Warm regards, Michael Green On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 9:01 PM, Francisco Molero fmol...@yahoo.com wrote: 2.- When TSM restores files from these tapes. Does it restore all files in a sequential way ?. I mean TSM is reading the tape from the beginning and if it finds files to belong to this

Re: Collocation Groups Reclamation and Restore

2010-03-16 Thread Francisco Molero
, 2010 00:07 Asunto: Re: Collocation Groups Reclamation and Restore Fred Johanson writes: Once a tape has been mounted for a collocation group's data, all nodes in that group are migrated. At least when the source pool is of type DISK, I'd guess that files will still be ordered by filespace

Re: Collocation Groups Reclamation and Restore

2010-03-15 Thread Wolfgang J Moeller
to happen here (we regularly run two migration processes in parallel). TSM Server 5.5.2.1, btw. I do manually clear out a few duplicate filling volumes per week server, but then there are several more possible reasons, among them routine changes to collocation groups (new nodes getting backed up w/o

Re: Collocation Groups Reclamation and Restore

2010-03-12 Thread Wolfgang J Moeller
Francisco Molero writes: [...] I have some questions about Collocation Groups Reclamation and restore. First, my environment I have a Tape STGpool with 3 Collocation Groups and 10 nodes per Group. 1.- When one volume is reclaimed in this pool. How TSM does the reclamation? moving files

Re: Collocation Groups Reclamation and Restore

2010-03-12 Thread Fred Johanson
-Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Wolfgang J Moeller Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 8:51 AM To: ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Collocation Groups Reclamation and Restore Francisco Molero writes: [...] I have some

Collocation Groups Reclamation and Restore

2010-03-09 Thread Francisco Molero
Hi TSMers, I have some questions about Collocation Groups Reclamation and restore. First, my environment I have a Tape STGpool with 3 Collocation Groups and 10 nodes per Group. 1.- When one volume is reclaimed in this pool. How TSM does the reclamation? moving files from one node from

Visual idioms for evaluating collocation groups?

2008-02-22 Thread Allen S. Rout
So, I'm working on tools (in 'R', my fvorite visualization environment) to help me understand the impact of a new collocation-group calculation tool. I'm reaching for some concise visual idiom which will help me see trouble spots. What I've arrived at so far is a column for each volume, with

Re: Collocation groups and offsite reclamation

2006-12-14 Thread Allen S. Rout
On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 13:55:51 -0500, Thomas Denier [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: My site once had a primary tape pool and a copy tape pool used for some of our larger clients, with both of these pools collocated by node. Offsite reclamation was a painful experience. Can you describe your config in

Re: Collocation groups and offsite reclamation

2006-12-14 Thread Thomas Denier
-Allen S. Rout wrote: - On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 13:55:51 -0500, Thomas Denier My site once had a primary tape pool and a copy tape pool used for some of our larger clients, with both of these pools collocated by node. Offsite reclamation was a painful experience. Can you describe your

Re: Collocation groups and offsite reclamation

2006-12-14 Thread Allen S. Rout
On Thu, 14 Dec 2006 10:01:26 -0500, Thomas Denier [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: There were just the two tape pools mentioned in my original posting. Copy pool volumes were sent to an offsite vault. Primary pool volumes remained onsite. I believe what TSM does is order the primary mounts by which

Collocation groups and offsite reclamation

2006-12-13 Thread Thomas Denier
was mounted it almost always contained data from a different node than the preceeding input tape. As a result, an input tape mount almost always triggered an output tape mount. We just upgraded to TSM 5.3 and are considering the use of collocation groups, with both primary and copy storage pools

Re: migration processes with collocation groups

2006-04-23 Thread Roger Deschner
with collocation, but now I'm starting to think he was priescent and revisit what he did. His solution of using policy is much more flexible than collocation groups. Perhaps he wasn't quite as crazy as we thought at the time. Properly deployed, TSM policy should let you do what you really want - define

Re: migration processes with collocation groups

2006-04-23 Thread Allen S. Rout
On Sun, 23 Apr 2006 13:52:50 -0500, Roger Deschner [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: The only solution is policy. (Quick! Grab the Aspirin!) Put it in its own copygroup etc, or even its own server image, and then turn off collocation completely for it, so that it can migrate on more than one drive at

Re: collocation groups

2006-04-21 Thread Josh-Daniel Davis
-0400 From: Allen S. Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: collocation groups On Wed, 19 Apr 2006 16:50:56 -0700, Gill, Geoffrey L. [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: If 10 nodes are in one group will it only mount one tape even

migration processes with collocation groups

2006-04-21 Thread Gill, Geoffrey L.
I'm a little confused as to how data is migrated to tape with collocation groups configured. Let's say I have 2 collocation groups in a single domain each with 10 computers, and I have configured the disk pool to migrate using 8 processes, how many processes should I see migrating data? What I

Re: collocation groups

2006-04-20 Thread Troy Frank
tapes show a bit more (~235GB), as if it did take some compression into account. That shouldn't be right either though, as I know my data is more compressible than 17%. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4/19/2006 6:50 PM Question related to collocation groups: If 10 nodes are in one group will it only mount

Re: collocation groups

2006-04-20 Thread Allen S. Rout
by filespace, he grumpily grumped) If I have a directory disk pool that is cached will it still go to one tape after migration or will collocation groups affect that? What I see leads me to believe the answer is yes. I am seeing multiple tapes for the directory tape pool with little to no data. Do folks

collocation groups

2006-04-19 Thread Gill, Geoffrey L.
Question related to collocation groups: If 10 nodes are in one group will it only mount one tape even if no other tape drives are busy? If I have a directory disk pool that is cached will it still go to one tape after migration or will collocation groups affect that? What I see leads me

Re: Collocation groups

2003-07-09 Thread Loon, E.J. van - SPLXM
Hi David! Collocation groups are planned to be implemented in 6.1 which is scheduled for 1st. quarter 2004. I heard rumors about another release (5.3?) in between, but I haven't seen any details about that release... Insert usual disclaimer statement here... ;-) Kindest regards, Eric van Loon KLM

Re: Collocation groups

2003-07-09 Thread bizzorg
When is TSM 5.2 going to be released?

Re: Collocation groups

2003-07-09 Thread Richard Sims
When is TSM 5.2 going to be released? You'll have to wait until June 27, 2003. See the List archives for prior discussions on this. Announcement: http://www.ibmlink.ibm.com/usaletsparms=H_203-095

Re: Collocation groups

2003-07-09 Thread Adrian Hicks
We got it last week ? -Original Message- From: Richard Sims [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 10 July 2003 10:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Collocation groups When is TSM 5.2 going to be released? You'll have to wait until June 27, 2003. See the List archives

Collocation groups

2003-07-08 Thread David E Ehresman
Is the collocation groups feature in TSM 5.2.0 or is it further out? If further out, any word on how far out? David

Re: Collocation groups

2003-07-08 Thread William F. Colwell
I know it isn't in 5.2.0. I don't know when it will be delivered. Bill At 01:50 PM 7/8/2003, you wrote: Is the collocation groups feature in TSM 5.2.0 or is it further out? If further out, any word on how far out? David -- Bill Colwell C. S. Draper Lab Cambridge Ma.