Thanks!
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Marouf, Nick
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 2:53 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] How well do .pst files dedup?
Hi Wanda,
I've had very good dedup savings
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Prather, Wanda
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 3:44 PM
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Many thanks for that info!
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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of
Colwell, William F.
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 2:15 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] How well do .pst files dedup?
Wanda,
I tried deduping them
ehalf Of
Prather, Wanda
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 3:44 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: How well do .pst files dedup?
Anybody looked in detail at how well .pst files dedup with TSM - (client or
server-end)?
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Anybody looked in detail at how well .pst files dedup with TSM - (client or
server-end)?
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That's got me started. Many thanks
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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
Thorneycroft, Doug
Sent: 16 April 2008 15:08
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Query to list .pst files
dsmc q backup -nodename= '{C:\
dsmc q backup -nodename= '{C:\Output.txt
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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
Angus Macdonald
Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 2:18 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Query to list .pst files
Can someone point me towards a query t
Can someone point me towards a query that I can use to discover how much of my
storage capacity is used up by .pst files? I suspect it's a lot but need some
hard figures to wave at authority.
Thanks
Angus
> I'm an utter newbie to TSM querying. Can anyone suggest a suitable query to
> list all instances of .pst files on a TSM database, with sizes, or even just
> a total size? I need something to wave at management to prove that mail
> archiving is a good idea.
> Thanks
> Angus
Up until about 6 months ago (when .pst files were exiled), we were
successfully using subfile, journaling, OFS on our main fileservers.
Prior to implementing subfiles (which we limited to .pst and Access
databases), we were struggling to push the 800GB-1TB per server per
night in our backup window
We are using subfile for pst files since about 2 years and are happy with it.
The fileserver has around 150 userhomes all with pst. Most user have pst
between 1 and 2 gb, some above.
We needed subfile because we did the daily backup over a 2 Mbit connection for
about all together of 500 GByte
elieve you can, begin it.
Boldness has genius, power and magic.
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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Allen S. Rout
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 10:41 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Backing up PST files
>> On Wed
originally thought.
All of this confirms the fact that subfile backup doesn't work for
files >2GB, which leaves me with my problem of how to manage and backup PST
files, when they can (and will) grow >2GB. Bill, thanks for your comments
on this. I'll pursue ez-extract and try to f
Howard Coles said:
> Sounds like NDMP does things along the lines of the Oracle TDP. TSM
> doesn't know, and can't manage what's in the data sent to it. Is that
> about right? We're considering dumping the oracle TDP because of
that.
> I don't want my TSM system just being a dumping grounds fo
Hi Paul,
the subfile cache doesn't hold the whole file, it holds signatures of
some
sort, probably a checksum for each page. I use subfile for pst files.
My pst is
75 meg but the folder is 5 meg.
We went thru a conversion to outlook 2 years ago. First, you're lucky
to be involved
The earlier description on subfile backup is not correct.
The cache does NOT hold a copy of the original file for files > 3M.
It keeps a file that stores a MAP of the blocks of the original file.
The TSM Server stores the original file, and the subfile differences.
At restore time, the original fi
r backup, not a subfile.
>
> In short, you can only manage a total of about 2 GB of files for subfile
> backup, and only files less than 2 GB in size are eligible.
>
>
> On 2/13/08, Sam Sheppard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:e
> >
> > Top
DSM-L] Backing up PST files
At 11:04 PM 2/13/2008, Wanda Prather wrote:
>Subfile backup was designed to work on laptops, not servers.
Yes, that is what we are trying to do. Sam, on the other hand
>The "base" or initial backup copy of a file is stored in a cache directory
>on t
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>>--> 02-14-08 08:41 S.SHEPPARD (SHS)Re: Backing up PST files
Ditto on the 'bummer' comment. I had noticed the 1GB subfilecachesize
limitation and wondered about the implications.
I guess we&#x
At 11:04 PM 2/13/2008, Wanda Prather wrote:
Subfile backup was designed to work on laptops, not servers.
Yes, that is what we are trying to do. Sam, on the other hand
The "base" or initial backup copy of a file is stored in a cache directory
on the client, which is also limited in size t
or data, I can
use setups that are a lot cheaper for that.
See Ya'
Howard
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Allen S. Rout
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 9:41 AM
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Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Backing up PST files
&
>> On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:23:25 -0500, "Strand, Neil B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> said:
> Have you looked into ndmp from the filer to your tsm server? If you
> are at TSM V5.4 you can do this over ethernet and handle the data
> just like any other node - move, copy etc. It also minimizes impact
>
files for subfile
backup, and only files less than 2 GB in size are eligible.
On 2/13/08, Sam Sheppard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:e
>
> Top of message
> >>--> 02-13-08 16:06 S.SHEPPARD (SHS)Re: Backing up PST
Sam Sheppard
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 7:13 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Backing up PST files
Top of message
>>--> 02-13-08 16:06 S.SHEPPARD (SHS)Re: Backing up PST files
We are in the same
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>>--> 02-13-08 16:06 S.SHEPPARD (SHS)Re: Backing up PST files
We are in the same boat here but, even worse, the customer has 'chosen'
to store all of the .PST files on a shared NetApp FAS d
Greetings...
We are starting to use Exchange and Outlook here, and now we need to figure
out how to backup PST files.. I know there has been some discussion of
this in the past on this list, and I have researched this. Here's our problem.
We have a client constituency who will be ru
Anybody actively using the Winders client Open File support to back up locked
.pst files?
And have you tested whether a restored version of the file is usable?
Any experience appreciated!
Wanda Prather
"* I/O, I/O, It's all about I/O *" -(me)
TSM Server 4.3.1 on windows
I am trying to do an sql query and want to find the file size and number of
files that are *.PST files that were backed up in the last 24 hours.
I can
select sum(file_size),count(*) from contents where file_name like
"%.PST"
But I don't know h
CTED]> wrote:
I've been searching the archives for how people got around backing up open
PST files and came across a couple messages about using the open file
support in the 5.2 client to back them up while open. Is this a good idea???
Are these backups good? These backups will take place during
I've been searching the archives for how people got around backing up open
PST files and came across a couple messages about using the open file
support in the 5.2 client to back them up while open. Is this a good idea???
Are these backups good? These backups will take place during the night
]]
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 9:00 AM
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Subject: Re: PST Files and Backup Times Revisited
Paul,
When you say "compact it", what exactly do you mean?
Regards, Joe
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From: Seay, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 200
You're absolutely correct... I that just occurred to me as I was going to test.
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From: Seay, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 11:44 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: pst files
Yeah, but the problem is the PST files are not o
Paul,
When you say "compact it", what exactly do you mean?
Regards, Joe
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From: Seay, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 10:21 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: PST Files and Backup Times Revisited
This discussion has been circli
pst -files locked.
I think the difference comes from inactivity and a "auto-close-feature".
The problem we had was a remote NT fileserver for about 100 Users and all
with large pst files (100MB - 1GB).
The incremental volume was around 5-6 GByte per night over a 2MBit line.
Since we
Yeah, but the problem is the PST files are not on the client, they are on
the file server.
Paul D. Seay, Jr.
Technical Specialist
Naptheon, INC
757-688-8180
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From: Peter Pijpelink - P.L.C.S. BV Storage Consultants [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, June 11
This discussion has been circling for the last week and I had not had time
to checkout what I am going to point out here.
A PST is continually added to the end. As stuff is added it just grows.
When you delete the stuff, IT DOES NOT SHRINK by itself. You have to
COMPACT it. I took the example
Hi
We had this problem before. Our Outlook/Exchange users left their client
running over night, which first of all produced a lot of errors, and
second of all made backups both take a long time, and also not backing up
open PST-files.
The solution is to install St Bernard Open File Manager
Hi,
as far as I know does Outlook himself closes the pst - files after a while
being idle.
I have no trouble backing up pst files in our environment.
(we use Outlook 2000 SP1, pst files@Netapp filer)
(For remote pst-files we use successfully subfile backup.)
Regards Stefan Holzwarth
;Hi
>
>We had this problem before. Our Outlook/Exchange users left their client
>running over night, which first of all produced a lot of errors, and
>second of all made backups both take a long time, and also not backing up
>open PST-files.
>
>The solution is to install St Berna
eir client
>running over night, which first of all produced a lot of errors, and
>second of all made backups both take a long time, and also not backing up
>open PST-files.
>
>The solution is to install St Bernard Open File Manager. We have this
>software running on two large file
> Why do *.pst files take so long to back up?
> Even those that are not in use. Does anyone
> have a strategy to back them up in a most
> efficient manner? We have users that create
> multiple, large (gigs)
> *.pst files and it's a requirement that we
> back them
Why do *.pst files take so long to back up? Even those that are not in use. Does
anyone have a strategy to back them up in a most efficient manner? We have users that
create multiple, large (gigs)
*.pst files and it's a requirement that we back them up.
Hi Bruce,
we are using subfilebackup for the users .pst files and are happy with it.
Backuptime didn't rise and we got a drop of amount of backup data round
about 55% (pst and other files together)
> Wan clients I have implemented
> Adaptive subfile differencing but still runni
those products but
would be happy to be refuted.
Zlatko Krastev
IT Consultant
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marketing material. We will be looking into the
product at a later time.
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From: Seay, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 2:54 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Outlook PST
In testing I've done, the modified date is updated on a .PST file just by
opening and closing outlook. Some info I've found on a newsgroup stated:
"PST files initiate a locking mechanism when you access them (access, not
necessarily open). A PST file is a database. This database
If your users broke their .pst files up into half a dozen or so then this
may reduce the amount of subfile data moved. What is probably happening is
that they are compressing the things making everything be sent.
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From: Bruce Lowrie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent
,
freed up a bunch of tapes, and reduced the need for reclamation processing.
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From: Bruce Lowrie [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 10:23 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Outlook PST files
All,
Each day, roughly 99% of the changed data on
Bruce,
You can put an EXCLUDE statement in your dsm.opt file on the client for
*.pst for each drive you have those files on.
Bruce Lowrie
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All,
Each day, roughly 99% of the changed data on my Windows file and print
servers is attributable to .pst files. For my Wan clients I have implemented
Adaptive subfile differencing but still running marathon backups of some
these clients.
So given that pst files dramatically impact WAN (and to
, February 28, 2002 8:53 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Weekly archive of *.PST files
*SMers,
We're trying to limit backing up *.PST file to weekly. We've asked on this
forum, and received answers, one telling us to exclude *.PST and define a
weekly archive schedule.
So far, here is
: Thursday, February 28, 2002 8:53 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Weekly archive of *.PST files
*SMers,
We're trying to limit backing up *.PST file to weekly. We've asked on this
forum, and received answers, one telling us to exclude *.PST and define a
weekly archive schedule.
So far,
nyone out there been successful?
Client schedules : NTSERVER FRIDAY_PST
Policy Domain Name NTSERVER
Schedule Name FRIDAY_PST
Description Archive only PST files
Action ARCHIVE
Options -archmc=ARCH_3wks -desc='Weekly Archive'
Objects *.pst
Priority 7
Start date 2002-02-27
Start time 16:50:01
D
You can create a batch file to query each filespace for pst files, and
redirect the output
to a text file. You can then import the text file into Excel, using fixed
width, and separate
the output lines into separate fields. You can then sort by date backed up
to find old files
no longer accessed
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Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 3:19 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: PST Files and TSM Backups
There has been a lot of discussion about PST files and backups. The subfile
backup is very helpful, but also if your users will empty the deleted items
folder of the PST and co
Shared dynamic won't affect the backup of an open PST file because Outlook
opens the file for exclusive use.
You can use the Open File Manager from St. Bernard to back up .pst files.
A useful free add-on from Microsoft reminds the user to back up their
folders periodically. The
There has been a lot of discussion about PST files and backups. The subfile
backup is very helpful, but also if your users will empty the deleted items
folder of the PST and compress the things that dramatically reduces their
sizes. I do it all the time. Unfortunately, there is no way to do
Our users put their PST files on the server. Has anyone used Open File
Manager to get backups of these files. Our users leave their Outlook
Desktop open and these files allocated. We are missing backups of these
files in our Netbackup world and as we migrate to TSM would like to
eliminate this
Message-
From: Prather, Wanda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 3:40 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: .PST files
We're in the same boat - MANY .pst files larger than 500 MB. We have a very
fast network, but the load on the server is getting huge, and a BIG pa
, October 23, 2001 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: .PST files
> The only way to backup .pst files to close Outlook before the backup.
>
>
> --
> Joshua S. Bassi
> Independent IT Consultant
> IBM Certified - AIX/HACMP, SAN, Shark
> Tivoli Certified Consultant- ADSM/TSM
> Cell (408
We're in the same boat - MANY .pst files larger than 500 MB. We have a very
fast network, but the load on the server is getting huge, and a BIG part of
it is those .pst files.
I've been testing the subfile backup capability over the last 2 weeks for
just this reason, and it works g
We do backup .pst files with normal incremental backups.
BUT, as they grow very fast and get backedup after every Outlook logoff, we
are very interested in the subfile adaptive mode of the backups in V4. I
hope it will allow backup of only changed/added bytes, instead of the whole
file every
We find that (at least on Win2K) Outlook will release the .pst files after
some period of non-use. But so far I haven't figured out exactly what that
period is, or any way to control it - (there was a .ini file that you could
set on earlier releases). Any EXCHANGE experts out there who
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The only way to backup .pst files to close Outlook before the backup.
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Independent IT Consultant
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The only way to backup .pst files to close Outlook before the backup.
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Joshua S. Bassi
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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Man
Hello everyone.
What, if anything, does anyone do concerning TSM backing up .PST files? We
are beginning to address this issue.
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