why create a 12TB LUN

2010-05-26 Thread Gill, Geoffrey L.
I'm guessing many of you will find this quite odd, I know I did, but I had someone come to me and say they were going to ask for a 12TB LUN and wanted to back it up. Without even mentioning the product they want to use, obviously not TSM though, and I'm not even sure it would make difference, how w

Re: why create a 12TB LUN

2010-05-26 Thread Kelly Lipp
Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Gill, Geoffrey L. Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 5:04 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [ADSM-L] why create a 12TB LUN I'm guessing many of you will find this quite odd, I know I did, but I had someone come to me and say they were goi

Re: why create a 12TB LUN

2010-05-26 Thread Gill, Geoffrey L.
ARIST.EDU Sent: Wed May 26 18:06:58 2010 Subject: Re: why create a 12TB LUN Geoff, As you well know, it isn't the 12TB that's the problem: it's the 40M files they're going to put on it! Actually, I think TSM is the only thing that will be able to backup such a thing. I

Re: why create a 12TB LUN

2010-05-26 Thread Fred Johanson
, 2010 8:06 PM To: ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] why create a 12TB LUN Geoff, As you well know, it isn't the 12TB that's the problem: it's the 40M files they're going to put on it! Actually, I think TSM is the only thing that will be able to backup such a

Re: why create a 12TB LUN

2010-05-26 Thread Remco Post
On 27 mei 2010, at 01:03, Gill, Geoffrey L. wrote: > I'm guessing many of you will find this quite odd, I know I did, but I > had someone come to me and say they were going to ask for a 12TB LUN and > wanted to back it up. Without even mentioning the product they want to > use, obviously not TSM t

Re: why create a 12TB LUN

2010-05-27 Thread Dwight Cook
Gill, Geoffrey L. Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 6:04 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [ADSM-L] why create a 12TB LUN I'm guessing many of you will find this quite odd, I know I did, but I had someone come to me and say they were going to ask for a 12TB LUN and wanted to back it up. Without

Re: why create a 12TB LUN

2010-05-27 Thread Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU
hold the list of objects and couldn't do a NQR had to do manual directory-by-directory. Not a pretty sight From: Kelly Lipp To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Date: 05/26/2010 09:08 PM Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] why create a 12TB LUN Sent by: "ADSM:

Re: why create a 12TB LUN

2010-05-27 Thread Huebner,Andy,FORT WORTH,IT
age- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 8:36 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] why create a 12TB LUN Been there..wrote the book.saw the movie...have the T-

Re: why create a 12TB LUN

2010-05-27 Thread Schaub, Steve
eve schaub -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Huebner,Andy,FORT WORTH,IT Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 9:47 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] why create a 12TB LUN What OS? Is the LUN owner going to do the backup? Is it a s

Re: why create a 12TB LUN

2010-05-27 Thread Rick Adamson
@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [ADSM-L] why create a 12TB LUN I'm guessing many of you will find this quite odd, I know I did, but I had someone come to me and say they were going to ask for a 12TB LUN and wanted to back it up. Without even mentioning the product they want to use, obviously not TSM t

Re: why create a 12TB LUN

2010-05-27 Thread Kelly Lipp
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Re: why create a 12TB LUN

2010-05-27 Thread Prather, Wanda
sage- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Kelly Lipp Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 1:00 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] why create a 12TB LUN Hmmm. I don't know about that. I thought that's what journaling was for! Now, I suppose if

Re: why create a 12TB LUN

2010-05-27 Thread Richard Sims
This kind of issue defines why a site should have a storage architect, to select the best overall implementation of such storage, including safeguarding against problems. Some storage requires only failsafe protection represented in RAID 1 or RAID 5. Some requires multi-generation file-level b

Re: why create a 12TB LUN

2010-05-27 Thread Schaub, Steve
lf Of Prather, Wanda Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 1:30 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] why create a 12TB LUN I've got a customer with multiple Windows servers having multiple LUNS with over 30M files, one is over 75M. (and of course, the developers claim there is no way to

Re: why create a 12TB LUN

2010-05-27 Thread Gill, Geoffrey L.
SM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of > Richard Sims > Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 11:01 AM > To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU > Subject: Re: why create a 12TB LUN > > This kind of issue defines why a site should have a storage architect, to > select the best overall

Re: why create a 12TB LUN

2010-05-27 Thread Strand, Neil B.
: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 7:04 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [ADSM-L] why create a 12TB LUN I'm guessing many of you will find this quite odd, I know I did, but I had someone come to me and say they were going to ask for a 12TB LUN and wanted to back it up. Without even mentioning the product

Re: why create a 12TB LUN

2010-05-27 Thread David McClelland
ot;Strand, Neil B." Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 14:45:51 To: Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] why create a 12TB LUN Gill, This sounds like an interesting environment. Could you share some of the particulars such as what storage device is providing the LUN, what server OS is using the LUN

Re: why create a 12TB LUN

2010-05-27 Thread Skylar Thompson
my BlackBerry® wireless device -Original Message- From: "Strand, Neil B." Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 14:45:51 To: Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] why create a 12TB LUN Gill, This sounds like an interesting environment. Could you share some of the particulars such as what storage device is pr

Re: why create a 12TB LUN

2010-05-28 Thread Jacques Van Den Berg
..) > > /DMc > Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device > > -Original Message- > From: "Strand, Neil B." > Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 14:45:51 > To: > Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] why create a 12TB LUN > > Gill, > This sounds like an inte

Re: why create a 12TB LUN

2010-05-28 Thread Steven Langdale
To ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject Re: [ADSM-L] why create a 12TB LUN Caterpillar: Confidential Green Retain Until: 27/06/2010 Had an original IBM 4.77MHz in 1991. 640KB Main memory. 360K Floppy drive & a 10MB Hard drive. Kind Regards, Jacques van den Berg TSM / Storage / SAP Basis A

Re: why create a 12TB LUN

2010-05-28 Thread Kelly Lipp
[mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Steven Langdale Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 4:46 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] why create a 12TB LUN Well If we're taking a trip down memory lane, I had an original IBM AT built like a tank! I used it up until a few years a

Re: why create a 12TB LUN

2010-05-28 Thread Thorneycroft, Doug
: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: why create a 12TB LUN Well If we're taking a trip down memory lane, I had an original IBM AT built like a tank! I used it up until a few years ago in the garage as a big step to get in the loft space. Steven Langdale Global Information Services EAME St

Re: why create a 12TB LUN

2010-05-28 Thread Richard Sims
On May 28, 2010, at 10:06 AM, Thorneycroft, Doug wrote: > OK, I think I have you all beat on the early high tech front. > Commodore VIC-20 with a whopping 5K memory, and a cassette player > for storage. If you're going to be like that... I had a MITS Altair 8800 with 256 bytes of memory, where y

Re: why create a 12TB LUN

2010-05-28 Thread Lindsay Morris
In the good old days, we'd count "1, 2, many ..." Lindsay Morris CEO, TSMworks Tel. 1-859-539-9900 lind...@tsmworks.com On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 10:16 AM, Richard Sims wrote: > On May 28, 2010, at 10:06 AM, Thorneycroft, Doug wrote: > > > OK, I think I have you all beat on

Re: why create a 12TB LUN

2010-05-28 Thread Timothy Hughes
I remember commodore the 128 from junior high when did they have Commodore Vic-20? Richard Sims wrote: On May 28, 2010, at 10:06 AM, Thorneycroft, Doug wrote: OK, I think I have you all beat on the early high tech front. Commodore VIC-20 with a whopping 5K memory, and a cassette player fo

Re: why create a 12TB LUN

2010-05-28 Thread Timothy Hughes
I checked it was before the commodore VIC-20. Timothy Hughes wrote: I remember commodore the 128 from junior high when did they have Commodore Vic-20? Richard Sims wrote: On May 28, 2010, at 10:06 AM, Thorneycroft, Doug wrote: OK, I think I have you all beat on the early high tech f

Re: why create a 12TB LUN

2010-05-28 Thread David McClelland
SM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Timothy Hughes Sent: 28 May 2010 15:33 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] why create a 12TB LUN I remember commodore the 128 from junior high when did they have Commodore Vic-20? Richard Sims wrote: >On May 28, 2010, a

Re: why create a 12TB LUN

2010-05-28 Thread Huebner,Andy,FORT WORTH,IT
: [ADSM-L] why create a 12TB LUN I checked it was before the commodore VIC-20. Timothy Hughes wrote: > I remember commodore the 128 from junior high when did they have > Commodore Vic-20? > > Richard Sims wrote: > >>On May 28, 2010, at 10:06 AM, Thorneycroft, Doug wro

Re: why create a 12TB LUN

2010-05-28 Thread Timothy Hughes
nager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Timothy Hughes Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 9:42 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] why create a 12TB LUN I checked it was before the commodore VIC-20. Timothy Hughes wrote: I remember commodore the 128 from junior high when did

Re: why create a 12TB LUN

2010-05-28 Thread Timothy Hughes
the Commodore VIC-20 for Tim > http://www.computinghistory.org.uk/det/2535/Commodore-VIC-20/ //DMc -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Timothy Hughes Sent: 28 May 2010 15:33 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] why create a 12TB LUN I remem

Re: why create a 12TB LUN

2010-05-28 Thread Timothy Hughes
after the C=64 and Vic-20. It included a C=64 mode. I no longer own a C=128. Andy Huebner -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Timothy Hughes Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 9:42 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] why cre

Re: why create a 12TB LUN

2010-05-28 Thread John D. Schneider
Actually, Lindsay, we'd count 0, 1, 10, 11, 100, 101, 110... :-) Best Regards, John D. Schneider The Computer Coaching Community, LLC Office: (314) 635-5424 / Toll Free: (866) 796-9226 Cell: (314) 750-8721 Original Message Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] why create a 12TB LUN

Re: why create a 12TB LUN

2010-05-28 Thread Schaub, Steve
st.edu] On Behalf Of John D. Schneider Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 12:00 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] why create a 12TB LUN Actually, Lindsay, we'd count 0, 1, 10, 11, 100, 101, 110... :-) Best Regards, John D. Schneider The Computer Coaching Community, LLC Office: (314)

Re: why create a 12TB LUN

2010-05-28 Thread Bruce T. Harvey
tor Manager" 05/28/10 10:16 AM Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" To ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu cc Subject Re: [ADSM-L] why create a 12TB LUN On May 28, 2010, at 10:06 AM, Thorneycroft, Doug wrote: > OK, I think I have you all beat on the early high tech front. > C

Re: why create a 12TB LUN

2010-05-28 Thread John D. Schneider
Regards, John D. Schneider The Computer Coaching Community, LLC Office: (314) 635-5424 / Toll Free: (866) 796-9226 Cell: (314) 750-8721 Original Message Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] why create a 12TB LUN From: "Bruce T. Harvey" Date: Fri, May 28, 2010 11:25 am To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIS

Re: why create a 12TB LUN

2010-05-28 Thread Cowen, Richard
My first programming job. NCR 500 1969 4K memory (400 12 digit words) machine language. Those "tape" drives in the picture are punched paper tapes. No disk. Magnetic ledger cards were the only permanent storage. http://www.thecorememory.com/TUPopUp.html?1=./assets/images/NCR_500_11.j pg&2

Re: why create a 12TB LUN

2010-05-28 Thread Robert Clark
;Gill, Geoffrey L." To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Date: 05/27/2010 11:47 AM Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] why create a 12TB LUN Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" Ah yes, the 'storage architect'. I believe that's the genius who came to me. Geoff Gill TSM/PeopleSoft Administrator S

Re: why create a 12TB LUN

2010-05-28 Thread Robert Clark
#x27;m a fan of Open Source. [RC] From: Jacques Van Den Berg To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Date: 05/28/2010 01:41 AM Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] why create a 12TB LUN Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" Had an original IBM 4.77MHz in 1991. 640KB Main memory. 360K Floppy drive & a 1

Re: why create a 12TB LUN

2010-05-28 Thread Jerry Michalak
A far cry from the kids coming out of "school" now, they know the buzzwords but not necessarily how to use them ! Jerry Michalak jerry_...@yahoo.com

Re: why create a 12TB LUN

2010-05-30 Thread Josh Davis
cluster filesystem. Then you could put the metadata on decent SSDs for higher IOPS on scans... Lots of options. With friendly regards, Josh-Daniel S. Davis - Original Message From: "Gill, Geoffrey L." To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Sent: Wed, May 26, 2010 6:03:38 PM Subject: [

Re: why create a 12TB LUN

2010-06-03 Thread Dale Jolliff
new-fangled PCs... -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of John D. Schneider Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 11:00 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] why create a 12TB LUN Actually, Lindsay, we'd count 0, 1, 10, 11, 100, 10

Re: why create a 12TB LUN

2010-06-03 Thread Schaub, Steve
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Dale Jolliff Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 10:30 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] why create a 12TB LUN I have to pitch in here I suppose. System One - 8" floppy for storage. The only user I/O was a