Re: [AFMUG] Radio Mobile Issue

2018-07-18 Thread Brian Webster
Double check the ground elevation of your units. When you redraw maps you want the adjust units elevation option checked. Can’t tell you how many times I chased RF setting issues only to later realize one or both of the units had elevation values set to zero or below the actual ground

Re: [AFMUG] ups delivery

2018-07-18 Thread Jon Langeler
Not if it’s ‘Hold For Pickup’ at a sort facility before it arrives. I do it from my phone app to boot Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. > On Jul 18, 2018, at 10:18 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > > Right. Any time you change anything, it adds another day. > > > > - > Mike Hammett >

Re: [AFMUG] ups delivery

2018-07-18 Thread Mike Hammett
www.ups.com - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "CBB - Jay Fuller" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 9:14:23 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ups delivery

Re: [AFMUG] ups delivery

2018-07-18 Thread Mike Hammett
Right. Any time you change anything, it adds another day. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@af.afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 5:00:38 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] ups delivery

2018-07-18 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
can you do this online? If so, whats link? THanks - Original Message - From: Jason McKemie To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 7:19 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ups delivery You can redirect it to a UPS "Access Point" regardless of your

Re: [AFMUG] 11 or 18

2018-07-18 Thread Mathew Howard
Yeah, but on the bright side, the fact that it occupies that much spectrum means that there shouldn't be any trouble upgrading to real 80mhz radios later on... On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 8:36 PM, Tim Hardy wrote: > Yeah and sadly that “56 MHz” AF11 occupies 79.6 MHz of spectrum - all > other ETSI

Re: [AFMUG] 11 or 18

2018-07-18 Thread Mathew Howard
Yeah, those look like nice radios, but you can get that kind of bandwidth out of an AF11 (assuming you can license both polarities). It's getting beyond ~650mbps where things start getting expensive really quick. On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 8:28 PM, Sean Heskett wrote: > We like the SAF integra-W

Re: [AFMUG] 11 or 18

2018-07-18 Thread Tim Hardy
Yeah and sadly that “56 MHz” AF11 occupies 79.6 MHz of spectrum - all other ETSI radios occupied 56. On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 9:09 PM Eric Kuhnke wrote: > Both are 80 MHz, but the AF11 only uses 56 MHz wide... If you look at the > channel mask from a spectrum analyzer of an expensive carrier

Re: [AFMUG] 11 or 18

2018-07-18 Thread Sean Heskett
We like the SAF integra-W for an 80ghz link in both 11 & 18GHz. It’ll push 643Mbps full duplex. -sean On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 7:13 PM Chuck McCown wrote: > Just trying to get the highest throughput backhaul for the buck. > > *From:* Eric Kuhnke > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 18, 2018 7:08 PM >

Re: [AFMUG] Unauthorized Mikrotik winbox Login made changes

2018-07-18 Thread Mathew Howard
You're obviously going to want to change the passwords, and check over the config to make sure nothing was added that could give somebody a way back in, but I don't think there's too much to worry about beyond that. On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 9:58 AM, Tim Cailloux wrote: > Should I have specific

Re: [AFMUG] 11 or 18

2018-07-18 Thread Mathew Howard
Yeah, as long as the channels are available for 11ghz, and the link is short enough for 18ghz to work decently, there's not going to be much difference either way. Once you get out of AF11 and B11 territory, pretty much anything can be had in 11ghz or 18ghz. On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 8:11 PM, Chuck

Re: [AFMUG] 11 or 18

2018-07-18 Thread Chuck McCown
Just trying to get the highest throughput backhaul for the buck. From: Eric Kuhnke Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 7:08 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 11 or 18 Both are 80 MHz, but the AF11 only uses 56 MHz wide... If you look at the channel mask from a

Re: [AFMUG] 11 or 18

2018-07-18 Thread Cassidy B. Larson
You can do 80MHz in both. > On Jul 18, 2018, at 19:05, Chuck McCown wrote: > > Of course I want to use an AF11X due to the price, but which band has the > wider channels? > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list

Re: [AFMUG] 11 or 18

2018-07-18 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Both are 80 MHz, but the AF11 only uses 56 MHz wide... If you look at the channel mask from a spectrum analyzer of an expensive carrier type 11 GHz radio (Dragonwave, Ceragon) it uses nearly all of the 80. 18 GHz, 112MHz x dual pol products exist for the ETSI and international market. On Wed,

[AFMUG] 11 or 18

2018-07-18 Thread Chuck McCown
Of course I want to use an AF11X due to the price, but which band has the wider channels?-- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Radio Mobile Issue

2018-07-18 Thread Jaime Solorza
Ahem. Get some rest... talking to yourself again...you are answering your own questions... Jaime Solorza On Wed, Jul 18, 2018, 6:55 PM Chuck McCown wrote: > So I used f11, visual coverage. OK fine. I just don’t recall it doing > the vertical pattern thing before. > > *From:* Chuck McCown >

Re: [AFMUG] Radio Mobile Issue

2018-07-18 Thread Chuck McCown
So I used f11, visual coverage. OK fine. I just don’t recall it doing the vertical pattern thing before. From: Chuck McCown Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 6:43 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Radio Mobile Issue Doing a coverage map. It was showing almost zero coverage. I kept upping the

[AFMUG] Radio Mobile Issue

2018-07-18 Thread Chuck McCown
Doing a coverage map. It was showing almost zero coverage. I kept upping the antenna height and the gain and it got worse. I discovered it is simulating a vertical pattern for an omni antenna. Lowered the gain to 10 dB and it started looking like I expected. I don’t recall it doing this

Re: [AFMUG] ups delivery

2018-07-18 Thread Jason McKemie
You can redirect it to a UPS "Access Point" regardless of your proximity to a sorting facility. On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 6:40 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: > I was going to mention that. Only helps if you have a sorting facility > within reach though. > -Adam > > > > On 7/18/2018 7:36 PM, Jon

Re: [AFMUG] ups delivery

2018-07-18 Thread Adam Moffett
I was going to mention that.  Only helps if you have a sorting facility within reach though. -Adam On 7/18/2018 7:36 PM, Jon Langeler wrote: If you register your name/address on UPS’s website I’m pretty sure you can redirect shipping. But you can definitely do a ‘hold for pickup’ at the

Re: [AFMUG] ups delivery

2018-07-18 Thread Jon Langeler
If you register your name/address on UPS’s website I’m pretty sure you can redirect shipping. But you can definitely do a ‘hold for pickup’ at the sorting facility and pick it up yourself Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. > On Jul 18, 2018, at 5:57 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller > wrote: > >

[AFMUG] GOP congressman introduces bill to reinstate net neutrality rules

2018-07-18 Thread Sean Heskett
https://www.theverge.com/2018/7/17/17577490/net-neutrality-republican-congress-bill-mike-coffman since he wants to amend the 1934 Telecommunications Act to have a new Title VIII section this might be a better way to accomplish what everyone wants and expects out of NN with out all the regulatory

Re: [AFMUG] ups delivery

2018-07-18 Thread chuck
That is true, the vendor can do things the receiver cannot. From: Ryan's Amplex Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 4:27 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ups delivery I’ve had success doing this by contacting the vendor and requesting another package be sent. They

Re: [AFMUG] ups delivery

2018-07-18 Thread Ryan's Amplex
I’ve had success doing this by contacting the vendor and requesting another package be sent. They can typically stop or redirect package 1 and send package 2 to your new location. I’ve done this with Amazon and BestBuy. Ryan > On Jul 18, 2018, at 6:04 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller > wrote: > >

Re: [AFMUG] ups delivery

2018-07-18 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
unbelieveable in 2018 ok :( - Original Message - From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@af.afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 5:00 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ups delivery I have tried but never been successful. And if you file any kind of online support complaint etc it

[AFMUG] ups delivery

2018-07-18 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
Got a package coming, should be here monday, but i need it friday. I have not found a way to redirect and UPS says they can not do this. Really?? Can someone give me more info on if they've done this before? -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] New toy

2018-07-18 Thread Lewis Bergman
Normally, it is a make before break relay or standard switch. How many poles depends on the VAC. On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 3:28 PM can...@believewireless.net < p...@believewireless.net> wrote: > How do you make a transfer switch? > > On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 3:59 PM, Gino A. Villarini > wrote: >

Re: [AFMUG] Battery heater pads

2018-07-18 Thread Dave
I have a few from old Cricket battery cabinets that have the thermostat sensor and fan controller On 07/18/2018 04:12 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: On 7/18/18 2:08 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: Hmmm.cut the cord off and put a simple thermostat in line. I guess there's no specific reason I can't

Re: [AFMUG] Battery heater pads

2018-07-18 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 7/18/18 2:08 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: Hmmm.cut the cord off and put a simple thermostat in line. I guess there's no specific reason I can't other than not wanting someone to open my box and laugh at it. I would worry about a fabric heating pad degrading over time and starting a fire.

Re: [AFMUG] Battery heater pads

2018-07-18 Thread Adam Moffett
Hmmm.cut the cord off and put a simple thermostat in line. I guess there's no specific reason I can't other than not wanting someone to open my box and laugh at it. On 7/18/2018 4:41 PM, can...@believewireless.net wrote: Is there a reason you can't just use an "off the shelf" heating

Re: [AFMUG] Battery heater pads

2018-07-18 Thread can...@believewireless.net
Is there a reason you can't just use an "off the shelf" heating pad? This is close enough to your size: https://www.amazon.com/XL-Heating-Pad-Electric-Shoulder/dp/B077NT1J5Q/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?s=hpc=UTF8=1531946342=1-2-spons=heating%2Bpad=1 On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 11:09 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] New toy

2018-07-18 Thread can...@believewireless.net
How do you make a transfer switch? On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 3:59 PM, Gino A. Villarini wrote: > We make them all the time for running our sites in portable generator.. > > We leave the generator running with the “transfer switch” If power comes > back, we use it and the site doesnt shut off when

Re: [AFMUG] New toy

2018-07-18 Thread Gino A. Villarini
We make them all the time for running our sites in portable generator.. We leave the generator running with the “transfer switch” If power comes back, we use it and the site doesnt shut off when generator runs out of gas From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> on behalf of Chuck McCown

Re: [AFMUG] Need Source for the flex conduit sat installers use

2018-07-18 Thread Josh Luthman
Do you mean the flexible conduit? I've only seen gray. Looks like this: https://www.dropbox.com/s/adc0ankmhm347b3/2018-03-26%2019.46.41.jpg?dl=0 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 1:45 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] Need Source for the flex conduit sat installers use

2018-07-18 Thread Adam Moffett
You can get black outdoor ENT.  Look Follow Chuck's link and look harder. On 7/18/2018 1:32 PM, Timothy Steele wrote: where seeing them in the data orange but boss wants it in black the Smurf Tube links are saying that it NOT UV Rated and Do not use outdoors is that really what there

Re: [AFMUG] Need Source for the flex conduit sat installers use

2018-07-18 Thread Timothy Steele
where seeing them in the data orange but boss wants it in black the Smurf Tube links are saying that it NOT UV Rated and Do not use outdoors is that really what there usings? On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 1:05 PM Adam Moffett wrote: > If a satellite installer was using it, and it was black in

Re: [AFMUG] Need Source for the flex conduit sat installers use

2018-07-18 Thread chuck
https://www.platt.com/search.aspx?q=1+INCH+SMURF+TUBE From: Timothy Steele Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 10:58 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Need Source for the flex conduit sat installers use that link us 404 when I do a search it only finds gray.. boss wants

Re: [AFMUG] Need Source for the flex conduit sat installers use

2018-07-18 Thread Timothy Steele
that link us 404 when I do a search it only finds gray.. boss wants a places that has it in black and says its UV Rated On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 12:49 PM Jason Wilson wrote: > ENT or "Smurf tube" > > (Common: 3/4-in; Actual: .75-In) Non-Metallic Ent 10-ft Conduit >

Re: [AFMUG] New toy

2018-07-18 Thread chuck
I actually made one a few months ago. A cheap outlet strip, perhaps from FS and a relay from digikey. Added a power cord. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 9:27 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] New toy First time we use an Eaton UPS bypass...we

Re: [AFMUG] The Looming Tower

2018-07-18 Thread chuck
I would assume it is all available to stream and binge watch. From: Lewis Bergman Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 10:01 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] The Looming Tower I can't do 11CST tomorrow. I can do before 9AM On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 7:59 AM Chuck McCown

[AFMUG] Need Source for the flex conduit sat installers use

2018-07-18 Thread Timothy Steele
Sat installers use what looks like a very thick NON-Split Loom conduit does anyone have a source where I can buy that stuff? -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT camper toilets

2018-07-18 Thread Ron M.
I've seen people pulling boats behind campers behind their pickup truck, why not pull one of these behind the fiber trailer? ;-) On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 8:56 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) < li...@packetflux.com> wrote: > I've been doing some research on this for a campervan build I'm >

Re: [AFMUG] The Looming Tower

2018-07-18 Thread Lewis Bergman
I can't do 11CST tomorrow. I can do before 9AM On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 7:59 AM Chuck McCown wrote: > From what I have read, it is very factual. > > *From:* CBB - Jay Fuller > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 17, 2018 8:13 PM > *To:* af@af.afmug.com > *Subject:* [AFMUG] The Looming Tower > > > Watching

[AFMUG] Battery heater pads

2018-07-18 Thread Adam Moffett
Alpha has these nice big battery warmer mats: http://www.alphatechnologies.com/download/547_battery_heater_mats_data_sheet.pdf They have a 13"x21" which is just right sized for the bottom of a cabinet. I hate buying from Alpha because they always make it hard to get out the door with one

Re: [AFMUG] Unauthorized Mikrotik winbox Login made changes

2018-07-18 Thread Tim Cailloux
Should I have specific concerns with the routers coming back online after a firmware upgrade? Coordinating access to one of my locations takes some effort, and particularly for after-hours work. I don't want to have an unnecessary daytime outage to upgrade while on-site. I've upgraded on the

Re: [AFMUG] The Looming Tower

2018-07-18 Thread chuck
Well, the hearings were video transcribed. And at the end of the series they have the actual hearings side by side with the TV show. Pretty spot on in dialog, voices and mannerisms. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 8:37 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] The

Re: [AFMUG] Unauthorized Mikrotik winbox Login made changes

2018-07-18 Thread Wireless Administrator
Am I correct to assume that input firewall rules limiting access to the router (Network Admin static IP) minimizes/eliminates the exposure or does this hack somehow bypass filter rules? Steve B. From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 4:07

Re: [AFMUG] The Looming Tower

2018-07-18 Thread Adam Moffett
Everything on TV is extra dramatic even when it's factual. On 7/18/2018 8:58 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: From what I have read, it is very factual. *From:* CBB - Jay Fuller *Sent:* Tuesday, July 17, 2018 8:13 PM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] The Looming Tower Watching this on Chucks

Re: [AFMUG] The Looming Tower

2018-07-18 Thread Chuck McCown
>From what I have read, it is very factual. From: CBB - Jay Fuller Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 8:13 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] The Looming Tower Watching this on Chucks recommendation.. about halfway through it. Do we think this is even partially based in fact? Yes we have