Re: [AFMUG] OT New YouTube Video

2018-07-25 Thread Bill Prince
That's exactly what I was thinking. Back out one of the screws, and find an equivalent in stainless. probably less labor involved and you don't jeopardize the paint. In fact, you could take the opportunity to put a dab of sealer under each screw. bp

Re: [AFMUG] OT New YouTube Video

2018-07-25 Thread Jason McKemie
Is it not possible to just back the screws out and replace them with something stainless or galvanized? On Wednesday, July 25, 2018, Chuck McCown wrote: > A bit off topic, but I figured while I was solving the problem, I may as > well share. > > https://youtu.be/ECauzd4bIlM > -- AF mailing list

[AFMUG] OT New YouTube Video

2018-07-25 Thread Chuck McCown
A bit off topic, but I figured while I was solving the problem, I may as well share. https://youtu.be/ECauzd4bIlM-- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Tested panel...100% !!! Yay me

2018-07-25 Thread Chuck McCown
Hot Sh*t! From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 7:54 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] Tested panel...100% !!! Yay me We finished panel for heaters in waste water system on clarifier side. All relays triggered , all alarms worked, 4 to 20 vdc tests through

Re: [AFMUG] Enterprise SATA Drives

2018-07-25 Thread Matt
I rarely have ever had a disk fail. Last 3 months I am on second one in same RAID 10 array. Both these drives, the one I already replaced and the one alarming now, are same model and purchased together and have ran for close too 3 years. But I have busier drives that have run much longer. -- A

Re: [AFMUG] Frontier Wholesale DSL

2018-07-25 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Everyone is entitled to make their own decisions and analysis. Everyone who has been doing dsl resell will tell you that, such business is a big drain on resources with little to no return. (There are many of us who have legacy business that we have kept going for other reason ) Most folks today

Re: [AFMUG] Enterprise SATA Drives

2018-07-25 Thread Robert Andrews
Anytime I see SxAS now my mind automatically jumps to As A Service... So I saw SAAS drives Yeah, SAAS drives with higher IOPS what a concept... On 07/25/2018 07:40 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: I went 7200 RPM SAS. SAS drives have higher IOPS than SATA drives. I usually try to wade through here wh

Re: [AFMUG] Enterprise SATA Drives

2018-07-25 Thread Bill Prince
There is also a vibration standard. Higher end drives will have a lower vibration; hence more longevity. bp On 7/25/2018 9:13 AM, Jesse DuPont wrote: My impression is it's a duty cycle thing. Non-enterprise drives are not rated for the "always-on/always thrashing" use case of a VM server or

Re: [AFMUG] Enterprise SATA Drives

2018-07-25 Thread Mike Hammett
IIRC, I was looking at the Reds when I got my SAS disks, but the cost difference was only like $10 or $20 per drive to go full SAS. Obviously pricing trends change. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Messag

Re: [AFMUG] Enterprise SATA Drives

2018-07-25 Thread Jesse DuPont
My impression is it's a duty cycle thing. Non-enterprise drives are not rated for the "always-on/always thrashing" use case of a VM server or NAS environment. To be more specific, I generally use drives that are approved by NAS vendors (WD RED, HSTG Enterprise, etc.). As Mike said, if you can g

Re: [AFMUG] Frontier Wholesale DSL

2018-07-25 Thread Chuck McCown
Yeah, my fourth attempt is generally successful. From: Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 7:51 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Frontier Wholesale DSL There is a great saying that might be very much applicable for this topic... it goes something like th

Re: [AFMUG] Suggestions on VDSL Modems

2018-07-25 Thread Chuck McCown
G fast. Probably cheaper than the Calix G fast product. If loops are short enough, it is a good solution. From: Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2018 9:07 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Suggestions on VDSL Modems If you are planning to spend money, how ab

Re: [AFMUG] Enterprise SATA Drives

2018-07-25 Thread Mike Hammett
I went 7200 RPM SAS. SAS drives have higher IOPS than SATA drives. I usually try to wade through here when getting drives: https://www.storagereview.com/ - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message -

[AFMUG] Enterprise SATA Drives

2018-07-25 Thread Matt
Looking at updating the drives on one of our boxes we run proxmox on. Is there a big difference between 7200 rpm drives labeled enterprise vs simple 7200 rpm name brand drives? -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Will a CMM 2 Pass VLANs?

2018-07-25 Thread Eric Muehleisen
CMM micro they call it. It will pass vlans just fine. On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 9:10 AM Christopher Gray wrote: > > It is an outdoor gray box maybe 9" wide and 12" tall. The switch inside is > not in an enclosure. > > Thanks for the suggestions, I'll give it a shot. > > On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 9:3

Re: [AFMUG] Will a CMM 2 Pass VLANs?

2018-07-25 Thread Christopher Gray
It is an outdoor gray box maybe 9" wide and 12" tall. The switch inside is not in an enclosure. Thanks for the suggestions, I'll give it a shot. On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 9:32 AM Adam Moffett wrote: > If the switch is like a 3-1/2" grey block then I'm pretty sure it's an > unmanaged dumb industri

Re: [AFMUG] Frontier Wholesale DSL

2018-07-25 Thread Matt Hoppes
Agreed - and I'm not opposed to going facilities based at Frontier -- but for much of what I'm looking at doing wholesale is a cheap, quick, affordable alternative to nothing. On 7/25/18 9:54 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: I suppose it depends on what your goals are. It could make for a great way to

Re: [AFMUG] Frontier Wholesale DSL

2018-07-25 Thread Mike Hammett
I suppose it depends on what your goals are. It could make for a great way to manage OOB access to your infrastructure or backup services to important clients. Going facilities-based certainly has its advantages as well. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Inter

Re: [AFMUG] Frontier Wholesale DSL

2018-07-25 Thread Matt Hoppes
Faisal, While I mostly agree with you... in our extremely rural areas this sometimes becomes a better option for folks than nothing. On 7/25/18 9:51 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: There is a great saying that might be very much applicable for this topic...  it goes something like this... Everyone

Re: [AFMUG] Frontier Wholesale DSL

2018-07-25 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
There is a great saying that might be very much applicable for this topic... it goes something like this... Everyone needs to make the same mistake at least three times to learn from it (i.e. not make it again). Smarter people will learn from making the same mistake only twice ! May you be am

Re: [AFMUG] Frontier Wholesale DSL

2018-07-25 Thread Mike Hammett
Why go broker and not direct? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Matt Hoppes" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2018 5:53:22 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fro

Re: [AFMUG] Suggestions on VDSL Modems

2018-07-25 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
This is a product / project being done by Robert Muller, I have seen the demo units, I don't have any in my network at the moment. Robert is easy to find on Facebook. From some of his recent posts, I understand that initial inventory is now available to ship from their US warehouse. Regards. Fa

Re: [AFMUG] Will a CMM 2 Pass VLANs?

2018-07-25 Thread Dave
I dont remember a CMM2 but we used CMM3 which was the only one I remember having a managed switch built in that would do vlan and port isolation. latest firmware remember was 3.11 On 07/24/2018 09:59 PM, Christopher Gray wrote: A network I'm rebuilding has an old CMM in place. Software version

Re: [AFMUG] Suggestions on VDSL Modems

2018-07-25 Thread Lewis Bergman
We used some XyXel gear a long time ago. It was good then. Very easy setup. I don't have much experience but what I seem to remember is all that gear seemed to work better, or at least be able to configure itself easier, if you used the same brand DSLAM and model. On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 10:47 PM