Re: [AFMUG] RF Armor for a CPE

2018-07-30 Thread Jaime Solorza
Ha..Whitehorse Communications in El Paso had 14 2.4GHz links with Hyperlink amps covered by foil and duct tape years ago on same roof on mountain. Using Mikrotik boxes...of course it didn't work. Antenna were not more than 20 ft. from one side to the other...I am sure I posted pictures on of

Re: [AFMUG] RF Armor for a CPE

2018-07-30 Thread Adam Moffett
If the goal is improve SNR on the CPE, wouldn't it be just as well to get a dish with higher gain and higher F/B ratio than to cobble weird stuff together? I don't mean to say that a cooking pot is any weirder than foil tape, galvanizing spray, tin foil, or "RF armor".  I just mean that at

Re: [AFMUG] RF Armor for a CPE

2018-07-30 Thread Eric Kuhnke
I have seen a person (not me) zip tie a cooking pot to the rear of a nanobridge, in addition to the rfarmor kit, to cut down on noise from the back side. It worked. On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 9:55 AM, Jeremy wrote: > I have masked the front and painted the backs with galvanizing spray > paint,

Re: [AFMUG] RF Armor for a CPE

2018-07-30 Thread Jay Weekley
You confused me. Mike Hammett wrote: Sorry, I read that backwards. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions

Re: [AFMUG] RF Armor for a CPE

2018-07-30 Thread Mathew Howard
No... you have to use an ePMP AP with elevate. Even if you could do that, I doubt there'd be enough difference to matter. On Mon, Jul 30, 2018 at 1:52 PM, Jay Weekley wrote: > You can load Elevate on a UBNT on a Force 200 and it will connect to a > UBNT AP? Is the Force 200 a better dish than

Re: [AFMUG] RF Armor for a CPE

2018-07-30 Thread Mike Hammett
Sorry, I read that backwards. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Jay Weekley" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 1:52:01 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RF

Re: [AFMUG] RF Armor for a CPE

2018-07-30 Thread Jay Weekley
You can load Elevate on a UBNT on a Force 200 and it will connect to a UBNT AP? Is the Force 200 a better dish than the Powerbeam? Mike Hammett wrote: Sure it will. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions

Re: [AFMUG] RF Armor for a CPE

2018-07-30 Thread Mike Hammett
Sure it will. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Jay Weekley" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 1:36:21 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RF Armor for a CPE

Re: [AFMUG] RF Armor for a CPE

2018-07-30 Thread Jay Weekley
That won't work on a Ubiquiti AP will it? Dave wrote: Just curious why not a epmp force 200 and load up some elevate? On 07/30/2018 12:51 PM, Jay Weekley wrote: Are the Pringles still in it? Dave wrote: I think I have a pringles can laying around here somewhere you can have :) On

Re: [AFMUG] RF Armor for a CPE

2018-07-30 Thread Steve Jones
force 200 is kind of amazing where it works for as exposed as the radio itself is, i wonder if the screw that holds it in deflects back side noise On Mon, Jul 30, 2018 at 1:25 PM Dave wrote: > Just curious why not a epmp force 200 and load up some elevate? > > > On 07/30/2018 12:51 PM, Jay

Re: [AFMUG] RF Armor for a CPE

2018-07-30 Thread Dave
Just curious why not a epmp force 200 and load up some elevate? On 07/30/2018 12:51 PM, Jay Weekley wrote: Are the Pringles still in it? Dave wrote: I think I have a pringles can laying around here somewhere you can have :) On 07/27/2018 11:56 AM, Jay Weekley wrote: This is for a customer

Re: [AFMUG] RF Armor for a CPE

2018-07-30 Thread Dave
I am sure there is a Brand new shiny can at your nearby grocery store :) On 07/30/2018 12:51 PM, Jay Weekley wrote: Are the Pringles still in it? Dave wrote: I think I have a pringles can laying around here somewhere you can have :) On 07/27/2018 11:56 AM, Jay Weekley wrote: This is for a

Re: [AFMUG] RF Armor for a CPE

2018-07-30 Thread Jay Weekley
Are the Pringles still in it? Dave wrote: I think I have a pringles can laying around here somewhere you can have :) On 07/27/2018 11:56 AM, Jay Weekley wrote: This is for a customer that can't keep a stable link with a -54 on Ubquiti 2.4. Bill Prince wrote: They leak profusely out the

Re: [AFMUG] RF Armor for a CPE

2018-07-30 Thread Jay Weekley
Interference is our guess. Dave wrote: Beat me up, but why? On 07/27/2018 11:56 AM, Jay Weekley wrote: This is for a customer that can't keep a stable link with a -54 on Ubquiti 2.4. Bill Prince wrote: They leak profusely out the back. The main benefit is to the sides. You will get

Re: [AFMUG] RF Armor for a CPE

2018-07-30 Thread Rory Conaway
Have you considered adding back to back RF Armor shields. I might try that today on an RD-34. Rory From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 9:01 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RF Armor for a CPE It is outside at my

Re: [AFMUG] RF Armor for a CPE

2018-07-30 Thread Jeremy
It is outside at my NOC. We have a 10' x 10' structure on the roof with back to back Nanostations broadcasting 10' apart On Mon, Jul 30, 2018 at 7:27 AM, Cameron Crum wrote: > The foil table is cheap and easy to try. If it doesn't work, you can > always peel it off. As for the 6db result from

Re: [AFMUG] RF Armor for a CPE

2018-07-30 Thread Dave
I think I have a pringles can laying around here somewhere you can have :) On 07/27/2018 11:56 AM, Jay Weekley wrote: This is for a customer that can't keep a stable link with a -54 on Ubquiti 2.4. Bill Prince wrote: They leak profusely out the back. The main benefit is to the sides. You

Re: [AFMUG] RF Armor for a CPE

2018-07-30 Thread Dave
Beat me up, but why? On 07/27/2018 11:56 AM, Jay Weekley wrote: This is for a customer that can't keep a stable link with a -54 on Ubquiti 2.4. Bill Prince wrote: They leak profusely out the back. The main benefit is to the sides. You will get better results if you don't mount them

Re: [AFMUG] RF Armor for a CPE

2018-07-30 Thread Jay Weekley
Has anyone ever tried foil tape and seen an improvement? Cameron Crum wrote: The foil table is cheap and easy to try. If it doesn't work, you can always peel it off. As for the 6db result from earlier, were you outdoors in inside when you tried that test? On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 12:02 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] RF Armor for a CPE

2018-07-30 Thread Cameron Crum
The foil table is cheap and easy to try. If it doesn't work, you can always peel it off. As for the 6db result from earlier, were you outdoors in inside when you tried that test? On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 12:02 PM, Jeremy wrote: > I used to use galvanizing spray paint to repair stingers that had