Re: [AFMUG] ATA hell

Title: Re: [AFMUG] ATA hell Dave, There is or was a SIP gate controller out there at one time.  If I remember, not cheap. -- Best regards, Mark                            mailto:m...@mailmt.com Myakka Technologies, Inc. www.MyakkaTech.com -- Tuesday, February 19, 2019, 5:55:14 PM, you

Re: [AFMUG] 10Gig at 5.25 miles?

Not that I am aware of Daniel White Co-Founder - Business Development & Operations phone: +1 (702) 470-2770 direct: +1 (702) 470-2766 Adam Moffett wrote on 2/19/19 15:29: I thought he might mean fiber.  Is there an FSO product that'll work at 5 mil

Re: [AFMUG] ATA hell

So, what triggers the gate mechanism? Do you just dial a code and the gate opens? If so, doesn’t sound like you need anything. Or is this a call box type of thing? From: dave Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2019 3:55 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] ATA hell I am looking for a solution to

Re: [AFMUG] ATA hell

Dumb question: Why not bury a wire from the building to the gate? On 2/19/2019 5:55 PM, dave wrote: I am looking for a solution to connect a security gate with touch tone dial pad to remove the existing phone lines to the gate and say good bye to ATT. I had thoughts of using some ATAs back

[AFMUG] ATA hell

I am looking for a solution to connect a security gate with touch tone dial pad to remove the existing phone lines to the gate and say good bye to ATT. I had thoughts of using some ATAs back to back and one for the sip ... Any thoughts and suggestions are welcome. -- -- AF mailing list AF@a

Re: [AFMUG] 10Gig at 5.25 miles?

you can either have the siklu route traffic out the other SFP+ port when certain conditions are met or you can have the siklu drop the port and let OSPF or other routing protocol handle the switchover. On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 1:44 PM Josh Baird wrote: > Do you do this by configuring the Siklu to

Re: [AFMUG] 10Gig at 5.25 miles?

I thought he might mean fiber.  Is there an FSO product that'll work at 5 miles? On 2/19/2019 5:26 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Arrgh, flashback, bad ptsd from 1990  in Mexico City. Lasers from high rise banking buildings to other high rise banking buildings.  Building move. *From:* dave *Sent:*

Re: [AFMUG] 10Gig at 5.25 miles?

Arrgh, flashback, bad ptsd from 1990 in Mexico City. Lasers from high rise banking buildings to other high rise banking buildings. Building move. From: dave Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2019 3:16 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 10Gig at 5.25 miles? Do Light optics On 2/

Re: [AFMUG] 10Gig at 5.25 miles?

Do Light optics On 2/19/19 11:35 AM, Carl Peterson wrote: Assuming this just ins't possible in the real world but I thought I'd throw it at the list and see if anyone knew of anything even if it cost an arm an and a leg.  Obviously wireless, fiber would be too easy. -- Carl Peterson *P

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik and Netflix

If you think actual living breathing customers are bad to deal with, wait until Amazon uses machine learning to teach Alexa how to nag us. On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 4:01 PM Nate Burke wrote: > I would think that the amazon data-mining is probably good enough that > Alexa would automatically dial K

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik and Netflix

AmpliFi is a home WiFi product from Ubiquiti. I think you can get the standalone AmpliFi router, or a kit with a router and two repeaters.  I think being pretty is the primary feature.  Not trying to knock it, just calling it like I see it. There's a display on the front that says "speed" but

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik and Netflix

I would think that the amazon data-mining is probably good enough that Alexa would automatically dial Ken's Cell Phone. It probably could even start pre-yelling at him for the customer. Maybe describing how important connectivity is for it's own survival. On 2/19/2019 3:40 PM, Mark - Myakka

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik and Netflix

Ken, Customer: Alexa why is my internet so slow Alexa: Call your ISP -- Best regards, Markmailto:m...@mailmt.com Myakka Technologies, Inc. www.MyakkaTech.com -- Tuesday, February 19, 2019, 3:03:42 PM, you wrote: KH> BTW, it appears that Mikrotik is shipping th

Re: [AFMUG] 10Gig at 5.25 miles?

Do you do this by configuring the Siklu to drop its data interface at a certain modulation? > On Feb 19, 2019, at 3:33 PM, Sean Heskett wrote: > > we aren't in rain zone K. we are in NW Colorado > > also if the link drops below 650Mbps then the network switches over the the > SAF Integra-W 1

Re: [AFMUG] 10Gig at 5.25 miles?

we aren't in rain zone K. we are in NW Colorado also if the link drops below 650Mbps then the network switches over the the SAF Integra-W 18GHz link (which has never happened). it has modulated down to 1gbps for a few minutes during a rain storm but hasn't completely dropped. On Tue, Feb 19,

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik and Netflix

BTW, it appears that Mikrotik is shipping the PL6411-2nD now, I got an email that my pre-order shipped today from a distributor. It's not exactly the powerline product I would have asked for, but the real question is how good it works. Netgear has a powerline + WiFi kit that is much closer to

Re: [AFMUG] 10Gig at 5.25 miles?

Use something like this.  Ceragon is announcing this at MWC I believe so it may no be prime-time ready: https://www.ceragon.com/products/ip-50fx/ On the IP-20 platform you could use this:  https://www.ceragon.com/products/fibeair-ip-20a-na/ Companies like Aviat and Ericsson should have simila

Re: [AFMUG] 10Gig at 5.25 miles?

According to Siklu's LBC, that's a lot of downtime... how long have you had it up? On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 1:33 PM Sean Heskett wrote: > we have a siklu EH-8010FX on 2' dishes running at 10Gbps at 5miles. we > also have a backup SAF Integra-W 18GHz on the same path in case of rain > fade (which

Re: [AFMUG] Bridgewave is being annoying

Wav also has Siklu On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 1:48 PM Sean Heskett wrote: > tessco has the siklu links too > > -sean > > On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 12:35 PM Sean Heskett wrote: > >> we buy the siklu links from winncom >> >> -sean >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 11:10 AM Seth Mattinen >> wrote: >> >

Re: [AFMUG] Bridgewave is being annoying

tessco has the siklu links too -sean On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 12:35 PM Sean Heskett wrote: > we buy the siklu links from winncom > > -sean > > > On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 11:10 AM Seth Mattinen wrote: > >> On 2/19/19 9:12 AM, Sean Heskett wrote: >> > David we have several 1,5 & 10Gbps links from

Re: [AFMUG] Bridgewave is being annoying

we buy the siklu links from winncom -sean On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 11:10 AM Seth Mattinen wrote: > On 2/19/19 9:12 AM, Sean Heskett wrote: > > David we have several 1,5 & 10Gbps links from siklu and we love them. > > > > Very easy to use and setup, great support, easy on the pocketbook. > > > >

Re: [AFMUG] 10Gig at 5.25 miles?

we have a siklu EH-8010FX on 2' dishes running at 10Gbps at 5miles. we also have a backup SAF Integra-W 18GHz on the same path in case of rain fade (which hasn't been necessary but that link was already in place so we just left it there as backup) -sean On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 10:37 AM Carl Pet

Re: [AFMUG] Bridgewave is being annoying

They also lost a bunch of sales during one of the AlcaLu deals... I think when Nokia bought AlcaLu. Nokia was wholesaling Dragonwave radios, but now no longer needed to because of AlcaLu. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik and Netflix

Start reading Ken's e-mails in Jim Gaffigan's voice. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Ken Hohhof" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2019 11:13:09 A

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik and Netflix

Back to the OP, I put in an Amplifi at my customers home.  The customer will let me know if they still have problems.  I told the In-laws to go get a netgear nighthawk with a built in cable modem (now it's not my problem anymore). The Customer with the Amplifi has so far said things are workin

Re: [AFMUG] Bridgewave is being annoying

We bought ours from Nijaz at bizsyscon.com. Very pleased with their customer service. On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 1:10 PM Seth Mattinen wrote: > On 2/19/19 9:12 AM, Sean Heskett wrote: > > David we have several 1,5 & 10Gbps links from siklu and we love them. > > > > Very easy to use and setup, grea

Re: [AFMUG] Bridgewave is being annoying

Yep, the Indian manufacturing entities finally just finished their reverse engineering work... (that was a joke if you were confused) From: Colin Stanners Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2019 11:19 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Bridgewave is being annoying I saw in

Re: [AFMUG] Bridgewave is being annoying

I saw in the news that a big DragonWave contract in India a few years ago was delayed / lost due to a glitch in the radios - did anyone hear what happened? On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 12:16 PM Eric Kuhnke wrote: > Dragonwave spent a lot of money developing new products, and on marketing, > expecting

Re: [AFMUG] Bridgewave is being annoying

Dragonwave spent a lot of money developing new products, and on marketing, expecting that they would get a major win with one of the big 4 american cellular carriers. Apparently that customer went elsewhere and bought a huge amount of competitors' carrier class radios instead (NEC, Ericsson, Nokia)

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik and Netflix

On 2/19/19 9:56 AM, Mathew Howard wrote: The other problem with the apps in Smart TVs and Blu-ray players, etc. is that they often never get updated (as in the manufacturers never even release updates)... apps for things like Youtube aren't even functional in a lot of blu-ray players anymore.

Re: [AFMUG] Bridgewave is being annoying

On 2/19/19 9:12 AM, Sean Heskett wrote: David we have several 1,5 & 10Gbps links from siklu and we love them. Very easy to use and setup, great support, easy on the pocketbook. Who did you buy them from? I sent requests to two places and no response. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http:

Re: [AFMUG] 10Gig at 5.25 miles?

It is for a customer of ours. If it were for me, I would just lease dark and add 80Ghz at the ends which is likely how this will end up. On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 12:04 PM Mathew Howard wrote: > You could probably do it with SIAE or Bridgewave navigator a fair amount > cheaper, but it would still

Re: [AFMUG] 10Gig at 5.25 miles?

You could probably do it with SIAE or Bridgewave navigator a fair amount cheaper, but it would still need to be the same configuration. I suspect running fiber would be cheaper. A more realistic way to do it, would be to spit it into a few hops and use 80ghz (of course that only works if there are

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik and Netflix

I really love Roku. Always seems to work when other things don’t. From: Sam Lambie Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2019 10:44 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik and Netflix I have found that most of the time, the in TV APPs Suck a big d*** in terms of streaming.

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik and Netflix

The other problem with the apps in Smart TVs and Blu-ray players, etc. is that they often never get updated (as in the manufacturers never even release updates)... apps for things like Youtube aren't even functional in a lot of blu-ray players anymore. I figure that if you get a Roku TV it's proba

Re: [AFMUG] 10Gig at 5.25 miles?

Multiple links. Eight PTP820's or Ceragon IP20C (which are the same thing), all XPIC, and all on the maximum channel size.  Probably a blend of both 18ghz and 11ghz in order to find enough channels. You'll have a total of 16 chains which will be a little over 600mbps each.  So just about 10gi

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik and Netflix

Yeah, we ran into a few of those Blu-Ray players, back when they first started including that sort of thing in Blu-Ray players... I haven't run into that in several years, I'm not sure if that's because the streaming apps got fixed, those players all died, or if everybody that has them just has fas

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik and Netflix

I have found that most of the time, the in TV APPs Suck a big d*** in terms of streaming. Once you put in a Chromecast, Roku, Apple TV, all is well. If the rest of the network is humming along just fine, I would blame the TV manufacturers on making crappy Apps. On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 10:24 AM Mar

Re: [AFMUG] 10Gig at 5.25 miles?

Assuming that you're OK with splitting the traffic across 2 links, a pair of DT Bridgewave Nagivators + all the spectrum known to man (slight exaggeration). On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 11:37 AM Carl Peterson wrote: > Assuming this just ins't possible in the real world but I thought I'd > throw it a

[AFMUG] 10Gig at 5.25 miles?

Assuming this just ins't possible in the real world but I thought I'd throw it at the list and see if anyone knew of anything even if it cost an arm an and a leg. Obviously wireless, fiber would be too easy. -- Carl Peterson *PORT NETWORKS* 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 Baltimore, MD 21202 (410)

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik and Netflix

Title: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik and Netflix Ken, I like my rokus.  One real nice thing is the vudu app on the roku.  I believe that is the walmart movie rental app. If you fire up that app, you can go to browse without any login.  Part of the browse screen is the settings/options.  If you go to that

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik and Netflix

All funny, but true. I'm not sure if this is still a thing, but some years ago I recall a customer had a Blu-Ray player that insisted on streaming in HD, regardless of the fact that their 1mbps connection couldn't do that.  I guess they'd rather buffer than use a lower resolution, or maybe the

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik and Netflix

The other thing I notice in the original post is both these people are using the built-in apps in the TVs. Just like the proliferation of streaming services has led me to use Netflix as a benchmark, I feel we need a benchmark streaming device or app. Like is it a Roku or a Roku TV? If not,

Re: [AFMUG] Bridgewave is being annoying

David we have several 1,5 & 10Gbps links from siklu and we love them. Very easy to use and setup, great support, easy on the pocketbook. -Sean On Fri, Feb 8, 2019 at 12:35 PM David Sovereen wrote: > I keep hoping someone here will drink the Bridgewave Navigator kool-aid > and report back but

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik and Netflix

A lot of times bad frequency selection happens through power glitches and all those devices in your area going off and on at the same time. Each one comes on at the same time, sees nothing on any channels because they are all coming up and they all settle on the same channel. Of course this do

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik and Netflix

If it's PPPoE, check your MTU. We've found in a few cases that mismatched MTU can cause random buffering issues. Seems to only affect Netflix. Amazon, Hulu, Sling and others are not affected by this for some reason. On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 8:24 PM Nate Burke wrote: > I'm only posting because I'v

Re: [AFMUG] Bridgewave is being annoying

This is what Bridgewave told me: The List Price for an ST radio with 2ft antenna and SFP's 625Mb/s thruput is about $7500 per link. (in TDD terms 1.25Gb/s in a single 80Mhz channel) The List Price for a DT radio with antenna and SFP's full 1.25Gb/s is about $14500 per link (in TDD terms that is 2

Re: [AFMUG] Bridgewave is being annoying

The DT (xpic) is just over $10K for a full link with 2' antennas. The sparing is where you save the most though. On Tuesday, February 19, 2019, Josh Baird wrote: > So - realistically, approximately how much is a complete link? > > On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 10:08 AM Jason McKemie < > j.mcke...@velo

Re: [AFMUG] Bridgewave is being annoying

So - realistically, approximately how much is a complete link? On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 10:08 AM Jason McKemie < j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: > Interested to hear how it goes. > > On Tuesday, February 19, 2019, Rory Conaway > wrote: > >> We have been working with the Navigator for a f

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik and Netflix

One other thing, since it sounds like Nate is maybe suspecting the Mikrotik RB951. I’ve had problems with Mikrotik 2.4 GHz and AUTO frequency selection, with devices not registering or not staying registered. I’m trying to remember if that’s on the 951G we used to deploy or the hAP ac and hAP

Re: [AFMUG] Bridgewave is being annoying

Interested to hear how it goes. On Tuesday, February 19, 2019, Rory Conaway wrote: > We have been working with the Navigator for a few months. It still had > some bugs to work out in terms of locking up every few days. We just got > new software a few days ago and so far, looks good. If it ma

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik and Netflix

Burst will confuse Netflix. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 19, 2019, at 7:06 AM, Bill Prince wrote: > > I've run tests with Netflix (and Prime, and a couple others). Netflix is > about the best at judging the speed of the connection, and adjusting the > codec to accommodate the speed capabilit

Re: [AFMUG] Bridgewave is being annoying

We have been working with the Navigator for a few months. It still had some bugs to work out in terms of locking up every few days. We just got new software a few days ago and so far, looks good. If it make it another week, I’m ordering another one. Rory From: AF On Behalf Of Mathew Howard

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik and Netflix

I've run tests with Netflix (and Prime, and a couple others). Netflix is about the best at judging the speed of the connection, and adjusting the codec to accommodate the speed capability. At the lowest quality codec, Netflix will work all the way down to just under 700 Kbps. No kidding. I think so