Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

2020-02-25 Thread Steve Jones
Listening to the cdc sky is falling today, im seeing a thread... remote. Remote workplace Remote school Remote commerce. Im not even putting my tin foil hat on for this. This is how an internet infrastructure is "justifiably" nationalized "for continuity" Massive federal funding is in play, state f

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Cambium LTE

2020-02-25 Thread Mathew Howard
I'm thinking the Cambium LTE CPE might be the best option even if we don't use their basestations... it'll be interesting to see what they come up with. On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 8:41 PM Adam Moffett wrote: > +1 on all counts. > > My experience with LTE CPE wasn't a lot better. If you point out a

Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex

2020-02-25 Thread Ken Hohhof
Aviat sells direct via their web store. From: AF On Behalf Of Lewis Bergman Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2020 8:32 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex I don't know anyone that sells Aviat. On Tue, Feb 25, 2020, 8:30 PM Darin Stef

Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex

2020-02-25 Thread Mathew Howard
Aviat only sells direct On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 8:32 PM Lewis Bergman wrote: > I don't know anyone that sells Aviat. > > On Tue, Feb 25, 2020, 8:30 PM Darin Steffl > wrote: > >> The best deal right now is Aviat 10Gbps full duplex for about $5k with >> dishes and everything. >> >> On Tue, Feb 25

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Cambium LTE

2020-02-25 Thread Steve Jones
Was green packet the one with that stalker salesguy On Tue, Feb 25, 2020, 5:48 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > When we dipped our toe in the WiMAX pool (Purewave, not Cambium) one of > the things I didn’t like was everyone wanted to sell basestations and rely > on the WiMAX “ecosystem” to supply CPEs. A

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Cambium LTE

2020-02-25 Thread Adam Moffett
+1 on all counts. My experience with LTE CPE wasn't a lot better.  If you point out any shortcoming in the CPE, Telrad just pointed their finger at Gemtek (and whoever made the 8000).  I could choke their throats all day long, but allegedly they couldn't do anything about it.  I wouldn't mind

Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex

2020-02-25 Thread Lewis Bergman
I don't know anyone that sells Aviat. On Tue, Feb 25, 2020, 8:30 PM Darin Steffl wrote: > The best deal right now is Aviat 10Gbps full duplex for about $5k with > dishes and everything. > > On Tue, Feb 25, 2020, 8:24 PM Sean Heskett wrote: > >> Good choice Lewis! >> >> We have a dozen of them a

Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex

2020-02-25 Thread Darin Steffl
The best deal right now is Aviat 10Gbps full duplex for about $5k with dishes and everything. On Tue, Feb 25, 2020, 8:24 PM Sean Heskett wrote: > Good choice Lewis! > > We have a dozen of them and they are rock solid and fast! Been really > amazed during rain events (heavy mountain downpours) t

Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex

2020-02-25 Thread Sean Heskett
Good choice Lewis! We have a dozen of them and they are rock solid and fast! Been really amazed during rain events (heavy mountain downpours) that they keep on keepin on!! -Sean On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 6:27 PM Lewis Bergman wrote: > Thanks everyone. I think we'll give the 80G Siklu a shot. >

Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex

2020-02-25 Thread Lewis Bergman
Thanks everyone. I think we'll give the 80G Siklu a shot. On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 12:00 PM Mathew Howard wrote: > At that distance, rain fade shouldn't be a problem with 60ghz, so it > really comes down to hardware reliability, and budget, and specific > requirements. > > If the project isn't co

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

2020-02-25 Thread Matt Hoppes
Make sure you change your RF Filters. > On Feb 25, 2020, at 5:00 PM, Steve Jones wrote: > > if corona virus hits the internet, it wont be able to survive the filth > >> On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 1:18 PM Colin Stanners wrote: >> If the coronavirus somehow becomes able to spread via the internet,

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Cambium LTE

2020-02-25 Thread Ken Hohhof
When we dipped our toe in the WiMAX pool (Purewave, not Cambium) one of the things I didn’t like was everyone wanted to sell basestations and rely on the WiMAX “ecosystem” to supply CPEs. And those CPEs (like Greenpacket) were wimpy little things with low xmt power, small low gain antennas, and

Re: [AFMUG] "Generic" 5Ghz dual-pol replacement feedhorns?

2020-02-25 Thread Steve Jones
I have considered sticking epmp force radios inside our radiowaves just to see what happens On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 4:22 PM Colin Stanners wrote: > We have a number of 2-3ft single-pol 5ghz antennas sitting around the > shop, and in many cases prefer not to pair them up into a dual-pol peanut >

[AFMUG] "Generic" 5Ghz dual-pol replacement feedhorns?

2020-02-25 Thread Colin Stanners
We have a number of 2-3ft single-pol 5ghz antennas sitting around the shop, and in many cases prefer not to pair them up into a dual-pol peanut on the tower. For more robust antennas like Radiowaves/Andrews, the options to replace the feedhorn to turn them into a dual-pol model range from $300-600

Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 NN License Expiry

2020-02-25 Thread Mathew Howard
Yeah, I know... people keep talking about the grandfather status like it's a big deal, but it really isn't. If CBRS had gone online a couple of years ago, then yeah, it probably would have been, but it's not really going to matter at this point. I would assume that if a CBRS operator puts up gear

Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 NN License Expiry

2020-02-25 Thread Peter Kranz via AF
I submitted and was granted grandfathered status.. but that status still expires in April.. so, you didn’t really get anything out of the process. Peter Kranz www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@un

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Cambium LTE

2020-02-25 Thread Steve Jones
450 tends to keep trucking with some interference, wimax and whatever ubnt was in out case. On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 4:00 PM Matt Mangriotis via AF wrote: > I completely understand your skepticism Ken. However, Cambium did design > the 3 GHz 450m with every intention of being able to support a tr

Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 NN License Expiry

2020-02-25 Thread Steve Jones
people are confusing grandfathered with expiry. The grandfather thing was a deal you had to do to get the grandfather CBRS status. by the time most of us realized, the deadline had passed. the expiration is just that, when your license expires, it does NOT give you grandfather status in regard to C

Re: [AFMUG] tower owner says underbilled 5 years

2020-02-25 Thread Steve Jones
We had a customer that didnt get billed for about a year because of a billing server bug. Surprisingly, we gave him the option to pay, or not. he opted to pay it over time. On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 2:03 PM Lewis Bergman wrote: > I have gone back 12 months before on a similar thing. In my case we

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

2020-02-25 Thread Steve Jones
if corona virus hits the internet, it wont be able to survive the filth On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 1:18 PM Colin Stanners wrote: > If the coronavirus somehow becomes able to spread via the internet, > humanity is done for. > > On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 11:19 AM Robert wrote: > >> Sorry, the cruise s

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Cambium LTE

2020-02-25 Thread Matt Mangriotis via AF
I completely understand your skepticism Ken. However, Cambium did design the 3 GHz 450m with every intention of being able to support a transition to LTE (specifically, as a RRH with cnRanger). The intent is for this device to be a fully capable 8x8 MU-MIMO. Yes, you’ve got that right though, yo

Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 NN License Expiry

2020-02-25 Thread Mathew Howard
grandfathered status is pretty much irrelevant at this point anyway... if I understand right, it goes away after April regardless of when your license expires, and since CBRS is really just starting to get deployed now, it's probably not going to make much difference to most people. But yeah, the

Re: [AFMUG] tower owner says underbilled 5 years

2020-02-25 Thread Lewis Bergman
I have gone back 12 months before on a similar thing. In my case we had not sent an invoice, which by our lease we are not obligated to do to collect payment, but still they were used to receiving one. As a result, I agreed to invoice that 12 months arrears over the next 18 months. On Tue, Feb 25,

Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 NN License Expiry

2020-02-25 Thread Chris Fabien
No... On Tue, Feb 25, 2020, 1:11 PM Eric Nielsen wrote: > Did you register for grandfathered status before the deadline? > > On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 12:51 PM Chris Fabien wrote: > >> We have a little bit of old WiMax gear, PMP320 and Telrad. At some point >> my understanding was we could operat

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

2020-02-25 Thread Colin Stanners
If the coronavirus somehow becomes able to spread via the internet, humanity is done for. On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 11:19 AM Robert wrote: > Sorry, the cruise ship resulted in them changing it to aerosolized in > propagation... > > On 2/25/20 8:02 AM, Bill Prince wrote: > > Recirculating air would

Re: [AFMUG] tower owner says underbilled 5 years

2020-02-25 Thread can...@believewireless.net
In Maryland, they can only go back 3 years. I'd call and negotiate paying only the last 3 years. On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 2:04 PM Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] wrote: > Happened to me too. But my payment was right. Their books were wrong. > > > > Jim Bouse > Owner - Brazos WiFi > 979-985-5912 > http:

Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 NN License Expiry

2020-02-25 Thread Eric Nielsen
Did you register for grandfathered status before the deadline? On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 12:51 PM Chris Fabien wrote: > We have a little bit of old WiMax gear, PMP320 and Telrad. At some point > my understanding was we could operate this until the expiry of our 10 year > license. Has that changed

Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 NN License Expiry

2020-02-25 Thread Adam Moffett
That is my understanding as well. On 2/25/2020 12:50 PM, Chris Fabien wrote: We have a little bit of old WiMax gear, PMP320 and Telrad. At some point my understanding was we could operate this until the expiry of our 10 year license. Has that changed now? We are not planning to deploy anythin

Re: [AFMUG] OT Kobe and helicopters

2020-02-25 Thread chuck
I found the video to unaware of the ADSB data that shows the 30 second screaming descent. The altitude and VSI data shows he did not hit the throttle at all. From: Cameron Crum Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2020 10:58 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Kobe and he

Re: [AFMUG] OT Kobe and helicopters

2020-02-25 Thread Cameron Crum
Video pretty much says what my friend did...realized he was too low, too late, and hit the throttle to try to climb out. Ended up flying right into the hillside. On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 11:21 AM Robert wrote: > youtube blancoliro channel has extensive technical coverage > > > https://www.youtube

[AFMUG] 3.65 NN License Expiry

2020-02-25 Thread Chris Fabien
We have a little bit of old WiMax gear, PMP320 and Telrad. At some point my understanding was we could operate this until the expiry of our 10 year license. Has that changed now? We are not planning to deploy anything under CBRS just will let these few customers stay on until we have to shut it dow

Re: [AFMUG] OT Kobe and helicopters

2020-02-25 Thread Robert
youtube blancoliro channel has extensive technical coverage https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6SYmp3qb3uPGuyuppTJCAKYhskLrixpn On 2/25/20 9:05 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: It was part of a news piece I read.  They had a very nice graphic.  Not sure where I saw it.  Could have been fake n

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

2020-02-25 Thread Robert
Sorry, the cruise ship resulted in them changing it to aerosolized in propagation... On 2/25/20 8:02 AM, Bill Prince wrote: Recirculating air would not be a vector, as it's been established this virus is not airborne, except by physical droplets. It's all about what/who you touch or get over

Re: [AFMUG] OT Kobe and helicopters

2020-02-25 Thread chuck
It was part of a news piece I read. They had a very nice graphic. Not sure where I saw it. Could have been fake news I suppose. From: Bill Prince Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2020 10:04 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Kobe and helicopters Is this public information? bp O

Re: [AFMUG] OT Kobe and helicopters

2020-02-25 Thread Bill Prince
Is this public information? bp On 2/25/2020 9:02 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Yes, they have radar info showing almost the entire last 5 minutes of the flight.   

Re: [AFMUG] OT Kobe and helicopters

2020-02-25 Thread chuck
Yes, they have radar info showing almost the entire last 5 minutes of the flight. From: Bill Prince Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2020 10:00 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Kobe and helicopters Where are you getting the information on the flight profile? bp On 2/25/2020 8:1

Re: [AFMUG] OT Kobe and helicopters

2020-02-25 Thread Bill Prince
Where are you getting the information on the flight profile? bp On 2/25/2020 8:16 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: 5000 fpm descent for 15 seconds is not controlled flight.  I don’t think you can get 5000 fpm eve

Re: [AFMUG] OT Kobe and helicopters

2020-02-25 Thread chuck
5000 fpm descent for 15 seconds is not controlled flight. I don’t think you can get 5000 fpm even with full collective down and autorotation. He would have had to do full collective down plus cyclic pushed forward and to the left. To me that sounds like a medical incident. From: Cameron Crum

Re: [AFMUG] OT Kobe and helicopters

2020-02-25 Thread Cameron Crum
A good friend of mine flew helos in the Army and is rated on everything from Apaches to Chinooks, and is now a helo pilot instructor. After looking at the FAA video and the stuff they have released, he said it was simply controlled flight into terrain. Basically, the guy didn't know where he was an

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

2020-02-25 Thread Bill Prince
Recirculating air would not be a vector, as it's been established this virus is not airborne, except by physical droplets. It's all about what/who you touch or get over-spray from nearby coughs and sneezes. bp On 2/24/2020 7:57 PM, Robert wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

2020-02-25 Thread Ken Hohhof
I wonder how this company feels about it: http://www.covid.com/shop.aspx From: AF On Behalf Of Robert Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2020 9:25 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock) Covid-19 On 2/25/20 6:29 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: What is the strain d

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

2020-02-25 Thread Robert
Covid-19 On 2/25/20 6:29 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: What is the strain designation of the current "crisis" coronavirus? As I said earlier, they are testing for some strains of coronavirus. I've attached a screenshot of results of mine from January for diagnosing a "regular" sickness that I had.

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

2020-02-25 Thread Robert
Interesting contradiction there, as they say clean your hands after touching the vent as it's one of the most contaminated articles on the aircraft, but that's where you get the cleanest air..   H...   I guess turn it on while you aren't sitting under it to start? On 2/25/20 5:15 AM, Matt

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

2020-02-25 Thread Mathew Howard
Those all appear to just be the normal common cold coronaviruses. This one would be COVID-2019 or something like that. On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 8:30 AM Mike Hammett wrote: > What is the strain designation of the current "crisis" coronavirus? > > As I said earlier, they are testing for some strain

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

2020-02-25 Thread Mike Hammett
What is the strain designation of the current "crisis" coronavirus? As I said earlier, they are testing for some strains of coronavirus. I've attached a screenshot of results of mine from January for diagnosing a "regular" sickness that I had. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing So

Re: [AFMUG] OT Kobe and helicopters

2020-02-25 Thread Chuck McCown
Mechanical or medical problem. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 24, 2020, at 9:10 PM, Robert wrote: > >  This a/c had radar altimeter... youtube blancoliro channel for more. > > On 2/24/20 11:17 AM, Steven Kenney wrote: >> You'd never catch me flying in a chopper IFR unelss I had some sort

Re: [AFMUG] New stuff

2020-02-25 Thread Tim Hardy
The TV aux band you speak of ends at 7.125 GHz. The radio used here operates in the Gov’t 7-8 GHz (7.125 - 8.50 GHz) band managed by NTIA. This is the band that FWCC, and CTIA among others is trying to get reallocated for sharing with Part 101 in an attempt to relocate paths from a portion of

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

2020-02-25 Thread Matt Hoppes
https://www.thesun.co.uk/travel/4345235/why-you-should-always-keep-your-air-vent-nozzle-open-on-a-flight/ On 2/25/20 8:10 AM, Robert wrote: Nope, wrong.    Almost all designs use compression off one of the engines that actually compresses/heats the air. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabin_pre

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

2020-02-25 Thread Robert
Nope, wrong.    Almost all designs use compression off one of the engines that actually compresses/heats the air. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabin_pressurization I was wrong about 80% its 50% and the recirc is hepa filtered. Who wants to change those  filters? On 2/25/20 3:03 AM, Matt Ho

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

2020-02-25 Thread Matt Hoppes
This is correct. Aircraft is at most 10% recycled air. They have HEPA filters for the recycled air. Turning the nozzle on above you and blowing it over you actually creates a “cone of safety” that blows bacteria and virus away from you. > On Feb 25, 2020, at 4:40 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: > >

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

2020-02-25 Thread Adam Moffett
I read that they don't really recirculate the air.  They have an intake at the front and a relief valve at the back. Pressure outside the plane is low, but forward motion of the plane compresses it to a higher pressure and the valve stops it from getting too high. Sounds like it would be safes