Re: [AFMUG] VPN?

To how many different hosts is the traffic going? That'll give you an idea if it's VPN or something like TOR. Usually if customers are doing something weird and complaining about performance, we first say to stop that weird activity so that our benchmarks (speed / ping / MTR tests) work. On Mon, J

Re: [AFMUG] OT flicker

Or maybe an inductor in series to keep the current flowing? -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Monday, June 22, 2020 7:44 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT flicker 120-277 VAC in. 30 volts 680 ma out. Imma gonna add some 3200uF c

Re: [AFMUG] OT flicker

120-277 VAC in. 30 volts 680 ma out. Imma gonna add some 3200uF caps to the 30 volt side. I tried a 1000 uF and it almost eradicated it. -Original Message- From: Bill Prince Sent: Monday, June 22, 2020 6:39 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT flicker LED drivers are supposed

Re: [AFMUG] OT flicker

Is it constant voltage or constant current? A single fixture with a known configuration of LEDs "should" be constant current. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RQOphp-mxE bp On 6/22/2020 5:28 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Just three light fixtures in there. -Original Message- From: Bil

Re: [AFMUG] OT flicker

LED drivers are supposed to be constant current. What is before the LED driver making it 30 volts? Or is it coming in at 110VAC, such that the driver is both rectifying and current controlling? bp On 6/22/2020 5:28 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: It seems to be a random flicker. The output of th

Re: [AFMUG] OT flicker

Or if one is 60 Hz and the other is 61 Hz, the beat would be 1 Hz. (Is the singular of Hertz pronounced Hert?) -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Monday, June 22, 2020 7:19 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT flicker You're maybe thinking of the beat b

Re: [AFMUG] OT flicker

Just three light fixtures in there. -Original Message- From: Bill Prince Sent: Monday, June 22, 2020 6:18 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT flicker You're maybe thinking of the beat between the two? If one is running at 60 Hz, and the other is running at 90 Hz, the beat wo

Re: [AFMUG] OT flicker

It seems to be a random flicker. The output of the LED driver says it is supposed to be 30 volts. It is measured at a slightly dirty 27 volts. -Original Message- From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Monday, June 22, 2020 5:28 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT flicke

[AFMUG] VPN?

What does it mean if 100% of a customer's traffic is UDP between high numbered ports? Does this mean they have configured a VPN service using their router? If so, would you still troubleshoot any weird complaints of Internet performance, or make them turn it off first? Or does this mean somet

Re: [AFMUG] OT flicker

You're maybe thinking of the beat between the two? If one is running at 60 Hz, and the other is running at 90 Hz, the beat would be 30 Hz (90-60). bp On 6/22/2020 4:28 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Are they definitely flickering? Or is it some kind of strobe effect because of the frequency not bein

Re: [AFMUG] OT flicker

Are they definitely flickering? Or is it some kind of strobe effect because of the frequency not being exactly 60 Hz off the generator but you have something else like a fluorescent or a computer screen that is synced to commercial power at 60 Hz? I don't really know what I'm implying, just st

Re: [AFMUG] Alibaba LiFePO4 48V 200Ah battery packs?

I assume it references the mosfets in the BMS. Peter Kranz www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Monday, June 22, 2020 3:59 PM To: Anima

Re: [AFMUG] Alibaba LiFePO4 48V 200Ah battery packs?

MOS? From: Peter Kranz via AF Sent: Monday, June 22, 2020 4:46 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Cc: Peter Kranz Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Alibaba LiFePO4 48V 200Ah battery packs? They also have a slightly different version using 80V MOS that supports 48V configurations.. attached. Pet

[AFMUG] OT flicker

Little loading I don’t see the problem. Sent from my iPhone-- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT generator stabilizer

Still some flicker at about 30% load. From: Chris Fabien Sent: Monday, June 22, 2020 2:55 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT generator stabilizer It will probably look like a clean sine wave but there is a control loop in the voltage regulator that adjusts the fi

Re: [AFMUG] OT generator stabilizer

It will probably look like a clean sine wave but there is a control loop in the voltage regulator that adjusts the field voltage to generate the correct output voltage. That loop has some instability under zero load, that's what it sounds like to me anyway. On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 3:57 PM Josh Lut

Re: [AFMUG] Lightning/Grid Damage to Gear

Well Steve probably picks up the envelopes. From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Monday, June 22, 2020 3:32 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Lightning/Grid Damage to Gear Sounds like a Steve Jones quality assurance program. F

Re: [AFMUG] Lightning/Grid Damage to Gear

Sounds like a Steve Jones quality assurance program. From: James Howard Sent: Monday, June 22, 2020 2:16 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Lightning/Grid Damage to Gear Jaimie can just cover it from the ah-hem “protection” dues his customers just happen to hand ove

Re: [AFMUG] Lightning/Grid Damage to Gear

Jaimie can just cover it from the ah-hem “protection” dues his customers just happen to hand over in their monthly envelope I’m sure. lol From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mark Radabaugh Sent: Monday, June 22, 2020 3:12 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] Lightning/Grid Damage to Gear

Jamie, You are in a different business though - you don’t get recurring income from your work (at least I don’t think you do). No way I would cover it for free on a contract job. Mark > On Jun 22, 2020, at 3:45 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > > Funny how some folks only believe in God after it

Re: [AFMUG] Lightning/Grid Damage to Gear

Title: Re: [AFMUG] Lightning/Grid Damage to Gear We have come full circle over the years.   Started out with customer pays for damaged equipment due to lightning/surges/etc.  Quickly found out no one reads the contract they signed and the arguing about it wasn't worth it. Moved on to an optiona

Re: [AFMUG] OT generator stabilizer

We just said screw it and did 12vdc (12v LED, battery) charge the battery via trailer cable. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 1:26 PM wrote: > Brand new splicing trailer. Just finishing it up. > Put in flore

Re: [AFMUG] Lightning/Grid Damage to Gear

God had nothing to do with it. It had to be Zeus. Oh, wait. He's the god of lightning. Never mind. As you were. bp On 6/22/2020 12:45 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: Funny how some folks only believe in God after it affects them some wa

Re: [AFMUG] Lightning/Grid Damage to Gear

Funny how some folks only believe in God after it affects them some way...we bill for any SCADA equipment damaged by lightning or surges along with labor We follow best practices as far as protection but some of the wiring that is inside enclosure is not under our scope of responsibility... On Mon

Re: [AFMUG] Lightning/Grid Damage to Gear

I completely agree. If the customer did something stupid and damaged it, then they should pay for it. Otherwise, just fix it and be done with it... you aren't really doing it for free... the price of the service should have the cost of that kind of thing built in. I suppose it's a bit different if

Re: [AFMUG] OT generator stabilizer

Cheap. So probably has brushes. From: Bill Prince Sent: Monday, June 22, 2020 12:21 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT generator stabilizer Cheap enough to not be brushless? Those brushes can really mess with a clean sine wave. bp On 6/22/2020 11:13 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote

Re: [AFMUG] OT generator stabilizer

Cheap enough to not be brushless? Those brushes can really mess with a clean sine wave. bp On 6/22/2020 11:13 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: 9 Kw Cheap. But it is a rotating generator, I would think wi

Re: [AFMUG] OT generator stabilizer

9 Kw Cheap. But it is a rotating generator, I would think windings rotating in a magnetic field would make a clean sine wave. Going to have to put a scope on it. From: Chris Fabien Sent: Monday, June 22, 2020 11:49 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT generator stab

Re: [AFMUG] Lightning/Grid Damage to Gear

Here's an argument I made against charging for repairs: If our default position is to bill for repairs, then we have no incentive to do better work because we can get paid again every time we fix it.  We might even have a perverse incentive to do worse work. -- Maybe lightning isn't our fau

Re: [AFMUG] Lightning/Grid Damage to Gear

We just cover it at no charge. The customer is paying us every month for a working service. I would much rather give the customer a couple hundred dollars worth of equipment and keep them happy instead fo them signing up with a competitor who is running a free install promotion. Costs too m

Re: [AFMUG] Lightning/Grid Damage to Gear

Note that power companies will actually cover damage to appliances if they have a power surge. Not sure how bad the surge has to be. But I remember one time there was a cross from primary to secondary wires on the poles and it blew out a bunch of TVs, washing machines, well pumps, etc. The po

Re: [AFMUG] OT generator stabilizer

What kind of generator? Cheap one? That seems like probably voltage fluctuation causing that. If I were going to use a small generator I'd go for a honda 2000 or 3000 inverter generator, or one of the competing models. Very quiet, last forever. Chris On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 1:36 PM Bill Prince w

Re: [AFMUG] OT generator stabilizer

I'm going to assume this is NOT an inverter style generator? Up to about 3 kVA that's all I buy, the price difference isn't that huge. Not sure about the big ones like 10+ kVA. From: AF On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Monday, June 22, 2020 12:35 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT

Re: [AFMUG] OT generator stabilizer

That sounds like the generator must have particularly ratty output? The constant current regulators on the input to the LEDs are supposed to filter that out. Maybe put an AC filter on the input to the light fixtures? bp On 6/22/2020 10:25 AM, ch...@

[AFMUG] OT generator stabilizer

Brand new splicing trailer. Just finishing it up. Put in florescent looking fixtures that are actually LED. They flicker with the generator power. I am going to try to put caps on the output of the LED ballasts... But what is the best way to stabilize the output of the generator? I am going to

Re: [AFMUG] OT nice guy

That has my favorite murder scene at the end. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Monday, June 22, 2020 9:22 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT nice guy Sounds like a scene from that movie with the quote “I drink your milkshake”. Is fiber contracting the new wild west?

Re: [AFMUG] Lightning/Grid Damage to Gear

We bill for acts of God but we also see what it takes to prevent such again. From our side we will add an indoor inline sure suppressor. 9x out of 10 that is the resolve.  If it continues to be an issue we do what we can to relocate subscriber unit to get away from the A lightning zones on a bui

Re: [AFMUG] Lightning/Grid Damage to Gear

I worked for two companies that had opposite positions on this topic. IMO It is easier for everyone to just cover it.  The cost of replacing a certain number of CPE needs to be built in.  And maybe this part is off topic, but you should also build in the cost of upgrading the CPE in 5 years (o

Re: [AFMUG] Lightning/Grid Damage to Gear

We did it the same way as Jim when we were in that business. We built enough into the price to provide the service. They expect it, it is easier to just charge them for it and give them what they expect. On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 10:38 AM Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] wrote: > We cover everything up to

Re: [AFMUG] Lightning/Grid Damage to Gear

We cover everything up to their router at no cost to the customer. Acts of God are our responsibility. Jim Bouse Owner - Brazos WiFi 979-999-7000 http://www.brazoswifi.com From: AF On Behalf Of Darin Steffl Sent: Monday, June 22, 2020 10:34 AM To: AnimalFarm Microw

[AFMUG] Lightning/Grid Damage to Gear

Hey guys, We typically perform free service calls when we find defective gear with no signs of damage. When we see lightning damage with black ethernet connectors or other signs of physical damage, we always bill labor and hardware and sometimes credit back a portion of it but never all of it. M

Re: [AFMUG] OT nice guy

The tech industry in Silicon Valley was rife with that all through the 70s, 80s, and 90s. It's still somewhat rampant. About every 2 to 4 weeks, I would get a call from a head hunter offering me 25% more than I was currently making. I took a couple of those; space

Re: [AFMUG] OT nice guy

Sounds like a scene from that movie with the quote “I drink your milkshake”. Is fiber contracting the new wild west? From: AF On Behalf Of Mark Radabaugh Sent: Monday, June 22, 2020 10:06 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT nice guy I have seen plenty of cont

Re: [AFMUG] OT nice guy

Everyone has a different threshold for these ethical dilemmas. If it was about lying we'd find someone who thinks overt lies are ok if they're useful or expedient, and someone who can't tolerate any untruth at all, and a lot of people in the middle who can justify prevarication and equivocation

Re: [AFMUG] OT nice guy

I have seen plenty of contracts with ‘anti-poaching’ clauses in them. How enforceable they are is beyond my pay grade. And no - I generally won’t consider hiring someone from a contractor or competitor unless the employee approaches me first. Even then I’m going to tell them that they need

[AFMUG] OT nice guy

A fiber contractor, to whom I had awarded at least a million or perhaps as much as $2M worth of work to in the past 7 years had one of his guys stop by my work crew and try to hire them. They offered “more than what Chuck is paying you” without knowing what Chuck is paying. Nice guy. I told

[AFMUG] OT: Indiana Tax Prep Question

I have an elderly relative in NW Indiana. She was taking her taxes to volunteers at the United Way to get prepared. Due to COVID they are not doing that this year, they say to go to a website for filing taxes. She does not have access to the Internet. Do any people in Indiana know of any si