Re: [AFMUG] OT... potato soap and enchiladas

Spanish is a strange language. Sopa is edible, pie is not. From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 10:00 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT... potato soap and enchiladas did you cuss? is that why the soap? but really, its fall, t

Re: [AFMUG] OT... potato soap and enchiladas

did you cuss? is that why the soap? but really, its fall, the only thing good about fall is potato soup On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 9:23 PM Jaime Solorza wrote: > Yum yum yum > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.

Re: [AFMUG] my adulterated nprm

I assume he means Non Penetrating Roof Mount. Most acronyms mean multiple things. From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 7:56 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] my adulterated nprm NPRM notice of proposed rule making Sent from my

Re: [AFMUG] my adulterated nprm

NPRM notice of proposed rule making Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 20, 2020, at 6:08 PM, Steve Jones wrote: > >  > Pretty solid in the shop with the angle supports, but if it feels loose up > top we will do that too, probably will anyway to hang pipe > >> On Tue, Oct 20, 2020, 6:14 PM Jaime

Re: [AFMUG] GPON - alternate wavelengths

I know Calix will allow NGPON to overlay on GPON without effort. -Original Message- From: Adam Moffett Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 1:19 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] GPON - alternate wavelengths That Black Magic question got me wondering something. G

Re: [AFMUG] GPON - alternate wavelengths

Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 From: "Chris Fabien" Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GPON - alternate wavelengths > > Jared - " What you can do is transport multiple PONs over a single fiber >using CWDM wavelengths. However, you need to do an OEO conversion at the >remote side back to standard wavelengths

Re: [AFMUG] GPON - alternate wavelengths

> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 > From: "Adam Moffett" > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GPON - alternate wavelengths > > I may have missed something important.  A vendor said that different PON > systems could co-exist, and I took that at face value. True. Different PON systems can co-exist: https://

Re: [AFMUG] HUD funds for Broadband

am i the only one who wonders how many iterations of funding for the same locations will go out before someone catches on On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 11:23 AM Gino A. Villarini wrote: > Anyone has information about HUD funds available for Broadband deployments > on Section8 Housing? > > > > > > *Gin

[AFMUG] Need some help setting up LibreNMS alerts on core network.

Is there anyone out there that could point me in the right direction to get alerting set up correctly? I have tried a few times to get AP's to alert me when they fail, but Libre seems to have some random ways to determine whether a device is up or down. Sam -- -- *Sam Lambie* Taosnet Wireless T

Re: [AFMUG] GPON - alternate wavelengths

Jared - " What you can do is transport multiple PONs over a single fiber using CWDM wavelengths. However, you need to do an OEO conversion at the remote side back to standard wavelengths and have separate PON trees for each wavelength." Can you elaborate on what it takes to make this happen? Is th

Re: [AFMUG] GPON - alternate wavelengths

I may have missed something important.  A vendor said that different PON systems could co-exist, and I took that at face value. Do you always need a filter at the ONT for that to work? On 10/20/2020 3:56 PM, fiber...@mail.com wrote: Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 From: "Adam Moffett" Subjec

Re: [AFMUG] GPON - alternate wavelengths

> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 > From: "Adam Moffett" > Subject: [AFMUG] GPON - alternate wavelengths > > Do any vendors sell PON optics on non-standard wavelengths? Not as far as I know. I recall an old press release [1], but I don't recall anything coming of it. The reason standard wavel

[AFMUG] GPON - alternate wavelengths

That Black Magic question got me wondering something. GPON, XGPON, NGPON all use different wavelengths.  So with a splitter at the head end of the cable you can lay multiple PON networks on the same fiber for an easy upgrade path. Do any vendors sell PON optics on non-standard wavelengths?  L

[AFMUG] HUD funds for Broadband

Anyone has information about HUD funds available for Broadband deployments on Section8 Housing? Gino Villarini Founder/President @gvillarini t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204 [https://gallery.mailchimp.com/491678685aaddc31e08616413/images/2a19bac2-257e-4f73-9295-a89a9c48a166.png]

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Twinkies do go bad

But is the fungus edible?  Maybe a shriveled fungus Twinkie could be a delicacy like blue cheese. On 10/20/2020 12:01 PM, justsumname wrote: whew now the world can end.   I'm ready. - On Sat, Oct 17, 2020 at 10:46 AM Ken Hohhof > wrote: https://www.npr.org/2

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Twinkies do go bad

whew now the world can end. I'm ready. - On Sat, Oct 17, 2020 at 10:46 AM Ken Hohhof wrote: > > https://www.npr.org/2020/10/15/923411578/a-disturbing-twinkie-that-has-so-far-defied-science > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > --

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber - Black Magic

On 10/20/20 7:27 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: BiDi is newer.  It's WDM built into the interface card.  You'd use duplex fibers because the circuit pre-dates BiDi, or the two fibers are already there and you have nothing to lose by using them both.  The theoretical benefit of duplex is that you hav

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber - Black Magic

Wait. What? If you have to run two strands, is it still BiDi? bp On 10/20/2020 8:00 AM, Seth Mattinen wrote: On 10/20/20 7:27 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: BiDi is newer.  It's WDM built into the interface card.  You'd use duplex fibers because the circuit pre-dates BiDi, or the two fibers are alr

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber - Black Magic

On 10/20/20 7:27 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: BiDi is newer.  It's WDM built into the interface card.  You'd use duplex fibers because the circuit pre-dates BiDi, or the two fibers are already there and you have nothing to lose by using them both.  The theoretical benefit of duplex is that you have

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber - Black Magic

And you had to make sure to terminate the ends and not exceed the collision domain distance. And anyone on the network could jam the whole network. I know some EE grad students that jammed the whole ME department. Every time they saw a transmission they told their Ethernet card to transmit a j

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber - Black Magic

Ug, N connectors and vampire taps. Ug. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 8:27 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber - Black Magic There were lots of copper interfaces before everything settled on the 8-pin modular telephone plug. 10-Base 2 could use any of th

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber - Black Magic

I remember in the early days, we ran a fat 1/2" diameter coax cable around the building, and you ran "taps" into it with a special little drill. Then you ran another coax to the device you were connecting to the ethernet. Oh man, those were the days. Good o

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber - Black Magic

There were lots of copper interfaces before everything settled on the 8-pin modular telephone plug.  10-Base 2 could use any of the coax connectors (F, N, BNC, etc), there were 15-pin D-sub connectors, vampire taps, EAD/TAE, and probably more exotic stuff.  We ended up with 8pin modular becau

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber - Black Magic

> Right. But why would you use two fibers when BIDIs exist?  Is there some > benefit? Inventory management and sparing becomes a bit more complicated with BiDi optics as they come in pairs. There is also some variation in wavelengths used, further potentially complicating things. Of course,

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber - Black Magic

Right. But why would you use two fibers when BIDIs exist? Is there some benefit? > On Oct 20, 2020, at 7:37 AM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: > >  > > BIDI means you are using one fiber strand. Otherwise it’s 2 fibers, one for > transmit and the other for receive. > > It’s not black magic - but

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber - Black Magic

BIDI means you are using one fiber strand. Otherwise it’s 2 fibers, one for transmit and the other for receive. It’s not black magic - but you do need to have some knowledge of what you are doing. Mark > On Oct 20, 2020, at 7:18 AM, Matt Hoppes > wrote: > > Is there a reason there isn’

[AFMUG] Fiber - Black Magic

Is there a reason there isn’t more a standard for the optics that go with fiber? It seems any time a cut over is done there’s always the question: which optic are you using? Bi-Di or not ? Then some equipment only supports certain optics. Twice now we’ve tried to do 1gig to 10gig wave upgrad