I have not. It just looked neat. I don't really have an application for anything like that.
On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 12:32 PM <af-requ...@af.afmug.com> wrote: > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 19 May 2021 13:29:14 -0400 > From: Brough Turner <bro...@netblazr.com> > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF Digest, Vol 36, Issue 113 > Message-ID: > <CAD2VXC_C-4OCtSQFJCzgPahF1M5N_VPNC= > drpyl9q5_kpv-...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Thanks Ryan, > > Have you deployed it and, if so, can you describe the cabling, # of > customers and the results they see? > > Thanks, > Brough > > Brough Turner > netBlazr Inc. ? Free your Broadband! > Mobile: 617-285-0433 Skype: brough > netBlazr Inc. <http://www.netblazr.com/> | Twitter > <https://twitter.com/#%21/brough> | LinkedIn > <http://www.linkedin.com/in/broughturner> | Facebook > <http://www.facebook.com/brough.turner> > > > > > On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 11:02 AM Ryan McAfee <r...@n5qz.org> wrote: > > > There is also Positron > > https://www.positronaccess.com/ > > > > On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 9:41 AM <af-requ...@af.afmug.com> wrote: > > > >> Send AF mailing list submissions to > >> af@af.afmug.com > >> > >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > >> af-requ...@af.afmug.com > >> > >> You can reach the person managing the list at > >> af-ow...@af.afmug.com > >> > >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > >> than "Re: Contents of AF digest..." > >> > >> > >> Today's Topics: > >> > >> 1. Re: Moving from cnMaestro Cloud to onPrem (Josh Luthman) > >> 2. Re: Moving from cnMaestro Cloud to onPrem (Carl Peterson) > >> 3. G.fast or G.hn for MDUs with older wiring (Brough Turner) > >> 4. Re: Moving from cnMaestro Cloud to onPrem (Josh Luthman) > >> > >> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >> > >> Message: 3 > >> Date: Wed, 19 May 2021 10:31:51 -0400 > >> From: Brough Turner <bro...@netblazr.com> > >> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> > >> Subject: [AFMUG] G.fast or G.hn for MDUs with older wiring > >> Message-ID: > >> <CAD2VXC_oHy31ngwpCpUm13KL5aEbR3TqZxC5= > >> ngu7or2pnj...@mail.gmail.com> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > >> > >> We're an urban WISP with most of our residential customers in MDUs. Most > >> of > >> these MDUs have Cat5e or Cat6 from central closets (usually per floor) > >> into > >> each unit. However, we have 13 buildings where we deployed Planet VDSL2 > >> gear over older phone wire between 2013 & 2016. We stopped going after > >> such buildings and stopped deploying new VDSL2 gear in 2017. Now Planet > >> has discontinued the equipment we were using and we just used our only > >> spare DSLAM, so we'll have to upgrade at least a few buildings (if only > to > >> obtain spares to keep the rest of our VDSL2 buildings alive). > >> > >> I have some G.hn experience. Back in 2017, we did a demonstration > >> project with Korea Telecom using G.hn equipment that KT provided: > >> > >> > >> > http://www.madison-park.org/press/bostons-netblazr-korea-telecom-partner-supply-affordable-housing-residents-free-high-speed-internet/ > >> The building had older 25-pair telecom cables terminated on Type 66 > >> blocks, > >> i.e. 1970s(?) wiring. As we connected customers, the results got worse > >> and > >> worse, presumably the result of cross talk in the 25-pair bundles. In > the > >> end, results were still a bit better than the 70-80 Mbps we get from our > >> Planet VDSL2 gear, but not much. One thing I noticed was the KT DSLAM > >> (UbiQuoss U4224BU) had individual RJ11 jacks for each line. This > compares > >> with G.fast equipment that seems to connect via 25-pair cables. Talking > >> to > >> a KT engineer who came to Boston to help with the installation, I got > the > >> impression that most MDUs where this gear is used in Korea have Cat3 > >> cabling, not 25-pair bundles. In any event, I'm a bit discouraged with > >> G.hn. > >> > >> The pro-G.fast arguments include that it has better crosstalk > protection, > >> for example this: > >> > >> > >> > http://www.mocalliance.org/access/Broadband-technology-evaluation-and-analysis.pdf > >> but I have no experience as yet. > >> > >> If I go with G.fast, I'm aware of these vendors: > >> > >> Fast Systems (Robert Muller CTO) > >> Adtran > >> Calix > >> > >> I know Robert and have talked with him recently. But I don't have any > >> experience with any G.fast equipment. > >> > >> If anyone has actually deployed G.fast in an MDU, I'd love to hear about > >> the setup and your experience. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Brough > >> > >> Brough Turner > >> netBlazr Inc. ? 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