Re: [AFMUG] Mimosas surge doesn't help 450

2018-10-15 Thread Mike Hammett
October 9, 2018 2:14:42 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosas surge doesn't help 450 Finally got one of the new Cambium units in for testing. It is similar to my GigE-SS and CAT6-SS in most parameters. Insertion Loss, NEXT etc. But there is a major difference in Return Loss. Return Loss meas

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosas surge doesn't help 450

2018-10-10 Thread chuck
Less interference = less errors. It has nothing to to with absorbing or suppressing surges. -Original Message- From: Seth Mattinen Sent: Tuesday, October 9, 2018 5:35 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosas surge doesn't help 450 On 10/9/18 4:21 PM, Chuck M

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosas surge doesn't help 450

2018-10-09 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 10/9/18 4:21 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: It is a loss figure.  So the more loss the reflection has the lower its amplitude and ability to interfere. Yes, larger return losses are almost always good. Curious to know why it would be "good" in this specific case. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.c

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosas surge doesn't help 450

2018-10-09 Thread Chuck McCown
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosas surge doesn't help 450 But why go out of the way to do all this work if it doesn't cause problems? They're not making enough sales on their own surge suppressor, which I didn't even know exists... J

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosas surge doesn't help 450

2018-10-09 Thread Sean Heskett
> *From: *AF on behalf of Josh Luthman < > j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > *Reply-To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Date: *Friday, September 21, 2018 at 10:49 AM > *To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Mimosas surge doesn't help 450 >

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosas surge doesn't help 450

2018-10-09 Thread chuck
26.3 7/810.025.9 From: Jaime Fink Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 11:57 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosas surge doesn't help 450 Can only guess at the motivations, but this is only a test they did in their controlled lab, we ha

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosas surge doesn't help 450

2018-09-21 Thread chuck
that can be said about almost all ethernet solid state surge protector units. https://www.surge-suppression.org/ From: Dave Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 4:21 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosas surge doesn't help 450 What is the major difference between the Cambium Gi

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosas surge doesn't help 450

2018-09-21 Thread Dave
AM *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mimosas surge doesn't help 450 Nice, why don't you become their supplier? I'm guessing yours aren't gas tubes and we shouldn't be concerned about this announcement? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 9

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosas surge doesn't help 450

2018-09-21 Thread Jaime Fink
AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosas surge doesn't help 450 But why go out of the way to do all this work if it doesn't cause problems? They're not making enough sales on their own surge suppressor, which I didn't even know exists... Josh Luthman Office

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosas surge doesn't help 450

2018-09-21 Thread chuck
Luthman Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 11:48 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosas surge doesn't help 450 But why go out of the way to do all this work if it doesn't cause problems? They're not making enough sales on their own surge suppressor, which

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosas surge doesn't help 450

2018-09-21 Thread Josh Luthman
; > *From: *AF on behalf of "ch...@wbmfg.com" < > ch...@wbmfg.com> > *Reply-To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Date: *Friday, September 21, 2018 at 9:03 AM > *To: *AFMUG > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Mimosas surge doesn't help 450 > > > > Well...

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosas surge doesn't help 450

2018-09-21 Thread Jaime Fink
Group Date: Friday, September 21, 2018 at 9:03 AM To: AFMUG Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosas surge doesn't help 450 Well... Consider the source. They have an ethernet problem. Even with no surge suppressor they have frame check and CRC errors. Most semiconductor based surge suppressors agg

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosas surge doesn't help 450

2018-09-21 Thread chuck
Our CAT6 products are 100% gas discharge tube. Our GIGE line are hybrid semiconductor and gas discharge tube. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 10:10 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosas surge doesn't help 450 Nice, why don't you be

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosas surge doesn't help 450

2018-09-21 Thread Josh Luthman
t; Funny, I will take a look at their (cambium) product again. > But the last time I checked the design was almost identical to mine > > *From:* Josh Luthman > *Sent:* Friday, September 21, 2018 8:23 AM > *To:* AFMUG > *Subject:* [AFMUG] Mimosas surge doesn't help 45

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosas surge doesn't help 450

2018-09-21 Thread chuck
Funny, I will take a look at their (cambium) product again. But the last time I checked the design was almost identical to mine From: Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 8:23 AM To: AFMUG Subject: [AFMUG] Mimosas surge doesn't help 450 https://www.cambiumnetworks.com/res

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosas surge doesn't help 450

2018-09-21 Thread chuck
do not protect the product is disingenuous at best and totally false at worst. But the users will be the true test. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 8:23 AM To: AFMUG Subject: [AFMUG] Mimosas surge doesn't help 450 https://www.cambiumnetworks.com/resource/applica

[AFMUG] Mimosas surge doesn't help 450

2018-09-21 Thread Josh Luthman
https://www.cambiumnetworks.com/resource/applications-alert-surge-suppressors/ How does this apply to yours Chuck? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.co