Re: [AFMUG] OT Diode Current

The ampacity of the leads seems suspect. From: Chris Fabien Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2016 7:55 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Diode Current It ends up being a question if how well you can get the heat out of the device and what the actual duty cycle will be in application. In a

Re: [AFMUG] OT Diode Current

"Donuts. Is there anything they can't do?" On 07/07/2016 06:55 PM, Chris Fabien wrote: It ends up being a question if how well you can get the heat out of the device and what the actual duty cycle will be in application. In a previous life i worked on brushless motor controls that could

Re: [AFMUG] OT Diode Current

It ends up being a question if how well you can get the heat out of the device and what the actual duty cycle will be in application. In a previous life i worked on brushless motor controls that could draw up to 150 amps at 12VDC (automotive application). It used very compact devices like these,

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Force 180

Maestro isn't done but that's the intention. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jul 7, 2016 9:14 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: > Added five more and place is covered... Cute lil radios just chugging > along

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Replacing NiMH with Lithium Ion

Gotcha, I'm not sure if I was looking at lithium or lithium ion. I thought it was rechargeable and the correct voltage whatever it was. I didn't think about lithium ion not being available in the required voltage. Probably would be best to just order the direct replacement. On Thursday, July 7,

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Force 180

Added five more and place is covered... Cute lil radios just chugging along nlos and LOS... Wonder how they do long range? Cant say I like en400 pilot right now Needed upgrade right out of box... Easy enough... But just like Crisco APs so much useless crap Interface sucks... I left a

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Replacing NiMH with Lithium Ion

This is a good comparison (http://www.greenbatteries.com/li-ion-battery-faq/). The "AA" size of lithium ion are actually a little bigger size called CRV3. They won't fit in a slot designed for AA. bp On 7/7/2016 5:44 PM, Jason McKemie wrote: I thought I saw some

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Replacing NiMH with Lithium Ion

I thought I saw some rechargeable 1.2v cells at the store the other day. Maybe not. On Thursday, July 7, 2016, Bill Prince wrote: > Careful. There are rechargeable Lithium Ion (3.7 volt), and > non-rechargeable "lithium" batteries (1.2 volt). Not the same. > > You can

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Replacing NiMH with Lithium Ion

Careful. There are rechargeable Lithium Ion (3.7 volt), and non-rechargeable "lithium" batteries (1.2 volt). Not the same. You can recharge the 3.7 volt ones, but AFAIK, the 1.2 volt ones are not rechargeable. bp On 7/7/2016 4:09 PM, Jason McKemie wrote: I've

Re: [AFMUG] OT Diode Current

Put it on a block of ice. From: Bruce Robertson Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2016 5:35 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Diode Current Looking at the specs, looks like you better keep it at 25 deg C! Also, the sucker is fairly large. On 07/07/2016 04:02 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Replacing NiMH with Lithium Ion

Yeah, the batteries charge in the phone, so probably not a great idea. On Thursday, July 7, 2016, Bruce Robertson wrote: > Should be fine, as long as you use a suitable charger. If the phone > itself charges the batteries, it's probably a bad idea. > > On 07/07/2016 04:09 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] OT Diode Current

30 amps maybe. 100 amps? No way. Something is fishy there. I've seen 100 amp diodes, and that's not what I picture. bp On 7/7/2016 4:02 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Looking for BFD for a battery charger in Digi-Key. After putting in filters for diodes that will do

Re: [AFMUG] RF blockage to make a ~350 degree omni (to prevent 450 interference to WiMAX)

Aaronia sells all kinds of RF blocking stuff... it's a German company which calls it electric smogthey make cool analyzers as well On Jul 7, 2016 3:12 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > Metal screen, hardware cloth. The squares need to be 10% of the > wavelength to be a good

Re: [AFMUG] OT Diode Current

Gonna need a helluva heatsink to dissipate 300 watts and maintain the required case temperature. From: Chuck McCown Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2016 6:02 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] OT Diode Current Looking for BFD for a battery charger in Digi-Key. After putting in filters for diodes

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Replacing NiMH with Lithium Ion

Should be fine, as long as you use a suitable charger. If the phone itself charges the batteries, it's probably a bad idea. On 07/07/2016 04:09 PM, Jason McKemie wrote: I've got a few older Siemens Gigaset phones that have rechargeable AA NiMH batteries. NiMH isn't terribly easy to come by

Re: [AFMUG] OT Diode Current

Looking at the specs, looks like you better keep it at 25 deg C! Also, the sucker is fairly large. On 07/07/2016 04:02 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Looking for BFD for a battery charger in Digi-Key. After putting in filters for diodes that will do 100-200 amps, one of the devices that came up was

[AFMUG] OT: Replacing NiMH with Lithium Ion

I've got a few older Siemens Gigaset phones that have rechargeable AA NiMH batteries. NiMH isn't terribly easy to come by locally, is it going to be a bad idea to use rechargeable Lithium Ion AA cells instead?

[AFMUG] OT Diode Current

Looking for BFD for a battery charger in Digi-Key. After putting in filters for diodes that will do 100-200 amps, one of the devices that came up was this: http://www.infineon.com/dgdl/IDW100E60_V2_1.pdf?folderId=db3a304412b407950112b408e8c90004=db3a304412b407950112b438da286bba Look at the case,

Re: [AFMUG] RB750p for small sites

The PowerBOX version comes with a 2.5A power supply, and PoE adapter / injector. I typically just connect that inside the building, and run Cat5e up to the PowerBOX. On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 4:32 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > You feed it POE? Where do you get a 2 amp

[AFMUG] RF blockage to make a ~350 degree omni (to prevent 450 interference to WiMAX)

We'd like to put up a 3.65 omni, but have seen certain cases of interference between the 3.65 450 and PMP320 WIMAX, so need to "notch out" the direction of a WIMAX tower. There's no existing antenna or mounting structures to use as a shield, and at this site we need to be careful of windload. I'd

Re: [AFMUG] RF blockage to make a ~350 degree omni (to prevent 450 interference to WiMAX)

Metal screen, hardware cloth. The squares need to be 10% of the wavelength to be a good blocker. From: Colin Stanners Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2016 3:09 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] RF blockage to make a ~350 degree omni (to prevent 450 interference to WiMAX) We'd like to put up a

Re: [AFMUG] RB750p for small sites

Yeah, that's exactly what I was figuring - plus whatever the Mikrotik uses itself, but I doubt that's more than 3-4 watts. On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 3:52 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Well I was thinking 2-3 Ubnt devices is common. I measure it at 12 watts > (24v 0.5a).

Re: [AFMUG] RB750p for small sites

Well I was thinking 2-3 Ubnt devices is common. I measure it at 12 watts (24v 0.5a). For solar everyone says 6 watts so that would be 18 watts (0.75a) so I definitely agree. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at

Re: [AFMUG] RB750p for small sites

We've got a lot of the RB750UP's in use, too.  We power them right off the DC plant (27V) into the barrel connector (as opposed to PoE in). If I need more ports at a site, I'll use one as the router (powering backhauls) and one just as a switch (for APs). We're powering UBNT and Mikrotik

Re: [AFMUG] RB750p for small sites

Typically where we use them are small sites with an ePMP or PowerBeam for a backhaul and an omni or two (usually ubiquiti 2.4 and ePMP 5ghz, but sometimes only one or the other)... which by my figuring should be well under 1 amp, so it hasn't been a problem feeding them with PoE... if you actually

Re: [AFMUG] Practical/low-cost 18AWG copper outdoor

For some reason this thread reminded me of G line... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goubau_line From: Eric Kuhnke Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2016 2:39 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Practical/low-cost 18AWG copper outdoor Local hippies will go nuts if we start drilling many dozens of

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber toolbox

Thanks for the input guys. I generally keep the splicer in the factory case, so I'm mainly looking for something for the additional tools. Looks like Klein has some good options though. -Jason On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 5:00 AM, David wrote: > Our splicer lives in a Pelican

Re: [AFMUG] Practical/low-cost 18AWG copper outdoor

Local hippies will go nuts if we start drilling many dozens of trees and attaching stuff. The place where the PTP radios go on the far end of the copper and fiber can have some trees trimmed... Thankfully this is in an area where there is zero risk of damage from off road/ATV or 4x4s, somebody

Re: [AFMUG] 430 SMs

A girl’s gotta eat... From: Mark Radabaugh Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2016 2:31 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 430 SMs The side wing version worked on the 430SM, we still have some. I recall you saying that you found out the Stinger Lite worked just as well and you discontinued the

Re: [AFMUG] RB750p for small sites

That's 56v out. The Mikrotiks are all 24v. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 4:36 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > Tycon makes lots of 30W rated 802.3at PoE injectors, and here's one that >

Re: [AFMUG] RB750p for small sites

Awesome, thanks for the info. I'll check it out tomorrow when they arrive =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 4:35 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: > I don't know that we have any that are

Re: [AFMUG] RB750p for small sites

Tycon makes lots of 30W rated 802.3at PoE injectors, and here's one that will do 70W: http://tyconsystems.com/index.php/dc-802-3at-gigabit/521-tp-dcdc-4856gd-vhp On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 1:32 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > You feed it POE? Where do you get a 2 amp POE? >

Re: [AFMUG] RB750p for small sites

I don't know that we have any that are actually drawing anywhere near 2 amps, but they actually come with a PoE adapter to use the included power supply. On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 3:32 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > You feed it POE? Where do you get a 2 amp POE? > > > Josh

Re: [AFMUG] RB750p for small sites

You feed it POE? Where do you get a 2 amp POE? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 4:29 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: > We always either have the power supply inside a building or in a small >

Re: [AFMUG] 430 SMs

The side wing version worked on the 430SM, we still have some. I recall you saying that you found out the Stinger Lite worked just as well and you discontinued the ‘winged’ version. And raised the price on the ‘lite’ version :-) Mark > On Jul 7, 2016, at 4:21 PM, Chuck McCown

Re: [AFMUG] RB750p for small sites

We always either have the power supply inside a building or in a small enclosure, and just feed the PowerBox with PoE... unless there's some kind of an outdoor power supply you can buy, I don't know how else you could do it. On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 2:50 PM, Josh Luthman

Re: [AFMUG] 430 SMs

I think the ones we have are actually on some PTP230 backhauls, and on towers so wind load wasn't an issue, just needed a bit more gain. On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 2:21 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > Wow, not too many of the side wing units were ever made. > They worked OK but made the

Re: [AFMUG] 430 SMs

Wow, not too many of the side wing units were ever made. They worked OK but made the wind loading too much. From: Steve Utick Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2016 2:19 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 430 SMs I think we had some that said they were for the 430's. The had some side

Re: [AFMUG] 430 SMs

I think we had some that said they were for the 430's. The had some side "Wings" on them if I remember right. Think we have some in use still. On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 1:14 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > This is an odd question coming from me... had anyone ever used a stinger > on

Re: [AFMUG] 430 SMs

I think I figured it out. It does probably work. But only the 5.7L versions. None of the other versions. I think it was a fluke, just happened to add some useful gain, but was not designed for it. From: Sean Heskett Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2016 2:00 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] 430 SMs

I'm pretty sure we were using them but I don't know which model stinger. I'll ask our installers On Thursday, July 7, 2016, Chuck McCown wrote: > This is an odd question coming from me... had anyone ever used a stinger > on a 430 SM? > My recollection was that due to the odd

Re: [AFMUG] RB750p for small sites

That's awesome!!! This would be very handy. How do you seal the power supply feeding the Powerbox if it's outdoors? If I could figure this out I wouldn't need any kind of enclosure. http://routerboard.com/RB750P-PBr2 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St

Re: [AFMUG] RB750p for small sites

Oh... I thought you were talking about the PowerBox (which is an RB750UP in an outdoor case). I'm not sure... I would assume it would be the same as if you plug the PoE out side of a power injector into something that doesn't support PoE... in my experience, they either work fine or something

Re: [AFMUG] RB750p for small sites

They're the same white plastic case as the RB750 if that's what you're referring to. It does have a big fat power supply, though. What happens if you try forced on to something such as a dumb switch or laptop? Are you talking about ether1-poe-in-long-cable ? That would only apply on ether1,

Re: [AFMUG] 430 SMs

Hmmm, must have been a “let’s see what this will do” type of thing. Thanks. From: Bill Prince Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2016 1:18 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 430 SMs We have a small number of PMP430s using the "stinger lite". Maybe about 10 or 12. At the time, I remember the

Re: [AFMUG] 430 SMs

We have a small number of PMP430s using the "stinger lite". Maybe about 10 or 12. At the time, I remember the vanilla 12db stinger will not work on a 430. 430 = OFDM (single polarity vertical) 450 = MIMO (dual polarity H/V for 5 GHz; dual slant for other frequencies). bp

[AFMUG] 430 SMs

This is an odd question coming from me... had anyone ever used a stinger on a 430 SM? My recollection was that due to the odd patch inside the 430, I was never able to make one work. But my website says the 57L stinger will work on OFDM 430 SMs. I am not sure I even have a 430 SM to test with.

Re: [AFMUG] RB750p for small sites

We have a bunch of them out there, the only issue that I've run into is that you need to make sure to enable long poe cable mode (or whatever it's called... something like that) if you're powering them with PoE, otherwise they do some crazy stuff. I've seen some weird stuff happen trying to use

Re: [AFMUG] outside contractor expectations

I will die if I go to vegas, but ill keep the offer in mind :-) Im bringing him in on this because at one point, all these links met the link planner specs (exception is one that was always 10dB low, but link planner now alerts on earth curvature, at the time it didnt. I have exaggerated tree

[AFMUG] RB750p for small sites

Has anyone been using these? They look just too ideal. I found that the default config (poe-out auto) works out of the box for Ubnt and a dumb switch. Just checking to see if anyone's found them to fail or anything obscure out in the field. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct:

Re: [AFMUG] Credit card irregularities.

This thread keeps making me think I’m browsing /r/churning. Chris Wright Network Administrator Velociter Wireless 209-838-1221 x115 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul Stewart Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2016 4:46 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Credit card

Re: [AFMUG] outside contractor expectations

Steve, Just pay me to consult and we can split the difference. I will use Google Earth and Street view and certify the alignments that way. I’ll even meet you in Vegas to deliver my report personally. You get to maintain your budget and get a trip to Vegas! Paul From: Af

Re: [AFMUG] outside contractor expectations

Assuming these are 5 GHz links, it would be interesting to see a sweep across the entire band 5.1-5.8 GHz with calibrated transmitter and receiver, both polarizations. So take the radios out of the picture, use known test equipment to measure path loss including coax, antennas, and several

Re: [AFMUG] outside contractor expectations

Not sure why one would replace a good feedhorn. From: That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2016 10:17 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] outside contractor expectations thats what he said hes doing. what would you recommend doing in this case? just replace all the feedhorns

Re: [AFMUG] outside contractor expectations

thats what he said hes doing. what would you recommend doing in this case? just replace all the feedhorns and re-align? We are paying the same rate either way so its just time On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 9:24 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > The only antenna test I can think of that should

Re: [AFMUG] Practical/low-cost 18AWG copper outdoor

Squirrels will love their new superhighway. From: Chuck McCown Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2016 9:18 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Practical/low-cost 18AWG copper outdoor Aerial. Use drive hooks in trees. Run a messenger strand for support and zip tie the cables to it. Better yet

Re: [AFMUG] Crouch, Idaho

If you ask me beer and fireworks DONT mix very well when I was watching it you dont ever run into fireworks one word IDIOTS!! -Original Message- From: "Josh Luthman" To: af@afmug.com Date: 07/07/16 10:49 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Crouch, Idaho Didn't

Re: [AFMUG] Crouch, Idaho

Didn't the governor make a big deal about Napoleon Dynamite putting Idaho into the spotlight? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jul 7, 2016 10:46 AM, "Travis Johnson" wrote: > Hey... > > Just because it was located in

Re: [AFMUG] Crouch, Idaho

Hey... Just because it was located in Idaho doesn't mean EVERYONE in Idaho is like that... LOL Here is the firework show that happens in my hometown every year (Idaho Falls, Idaho, population 60,000). Over 200,000 people show up for one of the largest shows in the country, by the local

Re: [AFMUG] outside contractor expectations

The only antenna test I can think of that should be quick and easy (assuming you have the right equipment) would be a return loss test/sweep. If they cannot do that, forget it. I probably would not even bother with the testing. From: That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2016

Re: [AFMUG] NG help

I would do the 2 PSI. Shouldn't take them any time at all to spec the two regulators you need. -Original Message- From: George Skorup Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2016 3:15 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] NG help Our gas meter is rated 5" w.c. and 175 cu.ft/hr. We have two furnaces

Re: [AFMUG] Practical/low-cost 18AWG copper outdoor

Aerial. Use drive hooks in trees. Run a messenger strand for support and zip tie the cables to it. Better yet lash it. From: Eric Kuhnke Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2016 11:21 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Practical/low-cost 18AWG copper outdoor Now to figure out how to

Re: [AFMUG] Crouch, Idaho

Wow… did they inventory how many fingers and eyes were lost? I lost a buddy in high school due to a “misfire” … and unfortunately I was there when it happened … From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: July 7, 2016 8:35 AM To: Animal Farm

Re: [AFMUG] Crouch, Idaho

I hope so - right now society pretty much sucks anyways. One thing you didn't see there (at least on video) was fighting. Everyone was just happy and living life. Sure it was ripe with the potential for injuries, but if someone wants to make poor choices that doesn't affect anyone else,

Re: [AFMUG] Crouch, Idaho

End of society as we know it On Jul 6, 2016 11:17 PM, "Eric Kuhnke" wrote: > Here's what the 4th of July looks like for your typical western state > rural WISP customers: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cT8XxXXi7rk=desktop > > >

Re: [AFMUG] NG help

Call a Generator guy! Call Lee! Erich Kaiser North Central Tower er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291 On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 4:15 AM, George Skorup wrote: > Our gas meter is rated 5" w.c. and 175 cu.ft/hr. We have two furnaces > rated 120k

Re: [AFMUG] Credit card irregularities.

All AMEX cards have some “soft limits” and “hard limits” based on previous balances and spending habits…. Even their Centurion card has limits (based on personal experience) From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: July 6, 2016 4:30 PM To: af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Credit card irregularities.

AMEX are assholes … pardon my jumping in but I’ve had problems with them with personal AMEX cards and lots of problems in the past with their business AMEX – every time I called them about issues they treated me like dirt… compare that experience to bank X and it’s always been a more pleasant

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber toolbox

Our splicer lives in a Pelican case as well, with the splicer, battery charger, cleaver, a couple of stripping tools, a visual fault locator, kevlar scissors, a buffer tube splitter, and a jacket stripper (actually two, one for .5" jackets and less, and one for .5" jackets up to 1.5" jackets), and

[AFMUG] NG help

Our gas meter is rated 5" w.c. and 175 cu.ft/hr. We have two furnaces rated 120k BTU/hr, 3.5" w.c. min pressure, 13.8" max. So that's all fine and good. Now add in our Generac at 316k BTU/hr and 5" min, 14" max. Obviously that meter isn't enough. But we're going back and forth with our rep

Re: [AFMUG] Practical/low-cost 18AWG copper outdoor

whats the cost of replacing the 2 runs of other stuff one time? or splicing a single one three times in three years? or 20. a "duct" to me would be anything "legal" to lay on the deck that is hardened. a half mile of anything will be expensive two half miles of anything will be really expensive

[AFMUG] outside contractor expectations

So, Im really a cheap bastard, Ive had like 10k in outside consultant/funtime contractor retard budget for a few months since our 12 dollar guy left us, Ive spent 0 bucks and done everything myself but need to deplete the budget so I can renew it. We have three ptp links that arent at the path