Re: [AFMUG] AF24 max distance rain zone K

2017-10-21 Thread George Skorup
I have a couple AF24 (non HD) links around almost exactly a mile. And a few more between 2.1 and 2.8 miles. The 1 mile links are obviously better in the rain, but they all drop out in heavy storms. 1 mile maybe 10 minutes, 2+ miles anywhere between 20-40 minutes depending on the intensity. This

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 max distance rain zone K

2017-10-21 Thread Jon Langeler
Yes like Chicago. What’s your thoughts on 1mi? Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. > On Oct 21, 2017, at 10:29 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > > Is your rain in Grand Rapids like Chicago rain? If so, yes. :-p > > Look back to the IgniteNet thread for the links to the TBW Facebook posts > whe

Re: [AFMUG] Best Radios (Licensed) for 2 gig

2017-10-21 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
Where is the link located Mitch? Chances of getting 240MHz spectrum in 6GHz is slim at best. Jeff Broadwick CTIconnect 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@cticonnect.com > On Oct 21, 2017, at 7:47 PM, Mitch Koep wrote: > > SIAE, Dragonwave, Bridgewave Navigator > > Thanks >

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 max distance rain zone K

2017-10-21 Thread Mike Hammett
Is your rain in Grand Rapids like Chicago rain? If so, yes. :-p Look back to the IgniteNet thread for the links to the TBW Facebook posts where I talk about better ways of calculating sanity of links. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brot

[AFMUG] AF24 max distance rain zone K

2017-10-21 Thread Jon Langeler
Is 2mi crazy? Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc.

Re: [AFMUG] Best Radios (Licensed) for 2 gig

2017-10-21 Thread Mike Hammett
That's something the people that quote it for you can tell you. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Lewis Bergman" To: "Animal Farm" Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2017 8:27:40 PM Subjec

Re: [AFMUG] Best Radios (Licensed) for 2 gig

2017-10-21 Thread Jon Langeler
I’ve seen very good results on east-west link with -50s with rain zone k at 20ish miles. Modulation reduced a few times. 60mhz though for channels in 6G Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. > On Oct 21, 2017, at 9:27 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote: > > What is going to be the uptime at 2 gig.?

Re: [AFMUG] Best Radios (Licensed) for 2 gig

2017-10-21 Thread Lewis Bergman
What is going to be the uptime at 2 gig.? On Oct 21, 2017 8:14 PM, "Darin Steffl" wrote: The new bridgewave navigator can run 4 channels total. So about 600mbps x 4 = 2.4 gbps full duplex. You would need to have two 80mhz channels available in both vertical and horizontal polarities to work with

Re: [AFMUG] Best Radios (Licensed) for 2 gig

2017-10-21 Thread Darin Steffl
The new bridgewave navigator can run 4 channels total. So about 600mbps x 4 = 2.4 gbps full duplex. You would need to have two 80mhz channels available in both vertical and horizontal polarities to work with that much bandwidth. On Oct 21, 2017 7:08 PM, "Jon Langeler" wrote: > Yes on 6 gig. I ju

Re: [AFMUG] Best Radios (Licensed) for 2 gig

2017-10-21 Thread Jon Langeler
Yes on 6 gig. I just got an email blast from Solectek. Appears to claim up to double the capacity in same spectrum but I might have misunderstood. Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. > On Oct 21, 2017, at 7:55 PM, George Skorup wrote: > > For 22 miles, you're probably looking at lower 6

Re: [AFMUG] Best Radios (Licensed) for 2 gig

2017-10-21 Thread George Skorup
For 22 miles, you're probably looking at lower 6GHz. If you can get two 60MHz channel pairs both in H & V, I believe you can do dual PTP820C/IP20C's at each end for a little over 2.2 (2.4?) Gbps full duplex. Been a while since I looked at all of the different supported configurations though, so

Re: [AFMUG] Best Radios (Licensed) for 2 gig

2017-10-21 Thread Mitch Koep
SIAE, Dragonwave, Bridgewave Navigator Thanks Will start Monday Have to figure out Missouri and my own long link Thanks for the input Mitch On 10/21/2017 6:13 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: Dragonwave as well. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions

Re: [AFMUG] Best Radios (Licensed) for 2 gig

2017-10-21 Thread Mike Hammett
Dragonwave as well. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Adair Winter" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2017 6:12:31 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best Radios (Licensed) for 2 gi

Re: [AFMUG] Best Radios (Licensed) for 2 gig

2017-10-21 Thread Adair Winter
SIAE and cambium both make radios that will do above 1gb, you'll need to work with the vendor to figure out the best way to get to 2gb. But with enough radios and lacp, you should be able to do it. Assuming you have the spectrum. On Oct 21, 2017 5:32 PM, "Mitch Koep" wrote: > Am looking at a 22.

Re: [AFMUG] billing systems

2017-10-21 Thread Rory Conaway
I’m good, thanks. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2017 3:52 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] billing systems Rory, Talk to powercode. They support MikroTik. On Oct 21, 2017, at 18:43, Rory Conaway mailto:r...@triadwireles

Re: [AFMUG] billing systems

2017-10-21 Thread Matt Hoppes
Rory, Talk to powercode. They support MikroTik. > On Oct 21, 2017, at 18:43, Rory Conaway wrote: > > Thanks Layne. We are moving forward with VISP. > > Rory > > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Layne Sisk > Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2017 3:28 PM > To: af@afmug.com > S

Re: [AFMUG] Best Radios (Licensed) for 2 gig

2017-10-21 Thread Colin Stanners
Look into Bridgewave Navigator, those had enticing specs. On Oct 21, 2017 5:32 PM, "Mitch Koep" wrote: > Am looking at a 22.4 mile link that needs a gig now and 2 gig by end of > next year > > Am trying to figure out the best gear for this application > > Thanks > > Mitch > >

Re: [AFMUG] Best Radios (Licensed) for 2 gig

2017-10-21 Thread Lewis Bergman
That should have been three On Sat, Oct 21, 2017, 5:45 PM Lewis Bergman wrote: > Sure do it with the links so it will work. > > On Sat, Oct 21, 2017, 5:32 PM Mitch Koep wrote: > >> Am looking at a 22.4 mile link that needs a gig now and 2 gig by end of >> next year >> >> Am trying to figure out

Re: [AFMUG] Best Radios (Licensed) for 2 gig

2017-10-21 Thread Lewis Bergman
Sure do it with the links so it will work. On Sat, Oct 21, 2017, 5:32 PM Mitch Koep wrote: > Am looking at a 22.4 mile link that needs a gig now and 2 gig by end of > next year > > Am trying to figure out the best gear for this application > > Thanks > > Mitch > >

Re: [AFMUG] billing systems

2017-10-21 Thread Rory Conaway
Thanks Layne. We are moving forward with VISP. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Layne Sisk Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2017 3:28 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] billing systems If you are still looking for something hit me offlist. Layne Sisk ServerPlus 801.426

[AFMUG] Best Radios (Licensed) for 2 gig

2017-10-21 Thread Mitch Koep
Am looking at a 22.4 mile link that needs a gig now and 2 gig by end of next year Am trying to figure out the best gear for this application Thanks Mitch

Re: [AFMUG] billing systems

2017-10-21 Thread Layne Sisk
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Re: [AFMUG] Ceragon/820C XPIC way off?

2017-10-21 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 10/21/17 3:17 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: Ok. so I guess it’s sell/exchange this radio set and get one within license bounds. Or change my license to match the radio set. Changing your license is obviously gonna be the cheaper option, if the channels you need are open. I remember the

Re: [AFMUG] Ceragon/820C XPIC way off?

2017-10-21 Thread Sterling Jacobson
Ok. so I guess it’s sell/exchange this radio set and get one within license bounds. Or change my license to match the radio set. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Darin Steffl Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2017 4:09 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ceragon/820C XPIC way

Re: [AFMUG] Ceragon/820C XPIC way off?

2017-10-21 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 10/21/17 2:52 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: I figured this out. No one told me, and I wasn't aware, that these Ceragon Radios has a fixed TX and RX range per sku/hardware. So I was trying to operate the radio a bit out of range of the hardware I guess. How do I change the TX/RX range for ea

Re: [AFMUG] OT Brunch

2017-10-21 Thread Jaime Solorza
I would get a left hook..my wife is very direct On Oct 21, 2017 12:29 PM, wrote: > She caught the spirit in which it was offered. > > An old Mormon proverb states: "natural man is an enemy to God, and has > been from the fall " > > So we spend our lives trying to suppress natural man. I just r

Re: [AFMUG] Ceragon/820C XPIC way off?

2017-10-21 Thread Darin Steffl
The range is printed on the radio with the serial number. It should be obvious what the range supports for that radio. You cannot change the range the radio operates in. You would need a different radio head to support the band you want to operate in. On Oct 21, 2017 4:52 PM, "Sterling Jacobson"

Re: [AFMUG] Ceragon/820C XPIC way off?

2017-10-21 Thread Sterling Jacobson
I figured this out. No one told me, and I wasn't aware, that these Ceragon Radios has a fixed TX and RX range per sku/hardware. So I was trying to operate the radio a bit out of range of the hardware I guess. How do I change the TX/RX range for each of my Ceragon radios, and how expensive is t

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Project Reconnect Puerto Rico - Your support is appreciated!

2017-10-21 Thread Andreas Wiatowski
Thanks for posting Chuck. Any contributions are appreciated. Looking forward to helping out where we can...from what I understand, it will be hot in-comparison to our Canadian climate. ;.) Cheers, Andreas Wiatowski, CEO Silo Wireless Inc. 1-866-727-4238 x-600 http://www.silowireless.com Wirele

Re: [AFMUG] OT Brunch

2017-10-21 Thread chuck
She caught the spirit in which it was offered. An old Mormon proverb states: "natural man is an enemy to God, and has been from the fall " So we spend our lives trying to suppress natural man. I just renamed him Harvey. She got it. From: Lewis Bergman Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2017 12:

Re: [AFMUG] OT Brunch

2017-10-21 Thread Lewis Bergman
That would have me sleeping on the couch On Sat, Oct 21, 2017, 12:52 PM wrote: > Went to Denny’s with my wife this morning as the old people’s discount is > 15% and I like one of the menu items. > > The young hostess was an optimum example of pulchritude. > > I told my wife that her visage cause

[AFMUG] OT Brunch

2017-10-21 Thread chuck
Went to Denny’s with my wife this morning as the old people’s discount is 15% and I like one of the menu items. The young hostess was an optimum example of pulchritude. I told my wife that her visage caused my inner Harvey Weinstein to awaken. If that becomes a meme, you heard it here first f

[AFMUG] Fw: Project Reconnect Puerto Rico - Your support is appreciated!

2017-10-21 Thread chuck
From: Andreas Wiatowski Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2017 10:34 AM To: Andreas Wiatowski Subject: Project Reconnect Puerto Rico - Your support is appreciated! Hello Everyone, All of you are people I know and do, or have done business with in the past. Please support our efforts in helpi

Re: [AFMUG] IPv6 for management

2017-10-21 Thread Paul Stewart
+1 …  almost everything in our management networks (which are completely separate logically from any other networks) are dual stack.  Also for HTTPS it’s the only form of web based management permitted (and only on devices where web interface is the only way to manage it). Paul From:

Re: [AFMUG] IgniteNet Metrolinq

2017-10-21 Thread Harold Bledsoe
LOL! On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 7:04 PM Chris Wright wrote: > Depends on how well that 10GB PMP performs. ;) > > > > Chris Wright > > Network Administrator > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Harold Bledsoe > *Sent:* Friday, October 20, 2017 1:52 PM > > > *To:* af@afmug.