Re: [AFMUG] WispAmerica Updates? (Kurt Fankhauser)

2015-02-26 Thread Mike Hammett
Telrad - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Ryan Ray To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 11:27:19 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WispAmerica Updates? (Kurt Fankhauser) VDSL is gonna reach out 20km? On Wed, Feb

Re: [AFMUG] WispAmerica Updates?

2015-02-25 Thread Jaime Solorza
s://twitter.com/ICSIL> > > -- > *From: *"Kurt Fankhauser" > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Tuesday, February 24, 2015 11:41:52 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WispAmerica Updates? > > Base station costs too much... $8-10k per sector, CPE's are

Re: [AFMUG] WispAmerica Updates?

2015-02-25 Thread Bill Prince
Yah. Tough nut to swallow, when Cambium is considered the "high price" competitor, and this one is coming in at 4X that cost. bp On 2/25/2015 10:55 AM, Matt wrote: We are looking at it and are very interested but it seems more complicated then deploying AP's of past and way more expensive.

Re: [AFMUG] WispAmerica Updates?

2015-02-25 Thread Matt
> Word on the street is "LTE or die" in the next 5 years, take your pick... Any ballpark idea on full cluster cost of MU-LTE right now? What is cost of back end, heard you must have some sort of database server for it? Also, what is yearly cost for license/firmware updates? What is speed curren

Re: [AFMUG] WispAmerica Updates?

2015-02-25 Thread Jon Langeler
osa. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > From: "Kurt Fankhauser" > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 11:41:52 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WispAmerica Updates? > &

Re: [AFMUG] WispAmerica Updates? (Kurt Fankhauser)

2015-02-25 Thread Mathew Howard
b> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> >> ------ >> *From: *"Stefan Englhardt" >> *To: *af@afmug.com >> *Sent: *Wednesday, February 25, 2015 12:41:34 AM >> *Su

Re: [AFMUG] WispAmerica Updates? (Kurt Fankhauser)

2015-02-25 Thread Ryan Ray
.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > > -- > *From: *"Stefan Englhardt" > *To: *af@afmug.c

Re: [AFMUG] WispAmerica Updates? (Kurt Fankhauser)

2015-02-25 Thread Mike Hammett
It won't be beat in wide area NLOS systems. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Stefan Englhardt" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 12:41:34 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wisp

Re: [AFMUG] WispAmerica Updates?

2015-02-25 Thread Adam Moffett
Bill, This company hasn't been charged for any firmware updates, nor have I heard any mention of such charges in the future. it wasn't a question I ever thought to ask though. Our ASN will have to replaced by the EPC when we switch to LTEI'm assuming that won't be free, but someone s

Re: [AFMUG] WispAmerica Updates?

2015-02-25 Thread Mike Hammett
afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 11:41:52 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WispAmerica Updates? Base station costs too much... $8-10k per sector, CPE's aren't bad through $270'ish or something, ended up being what a 450SM plus reflector cost. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelin

Re: [AFMUG] WispAmerica Updates?

2015-02-25 Thread Mike Hammett
ay, February 25, 2015 12:56:00 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WispAmerica Updates? Are you at the show, Patrick? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 25, 2015 12:54 AM, "Patrick Leary" < patrickleary.af...@gmail.com

Re: [AFMUG] WispAmerica Updates?

2015-02-25 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
If you have LOS for all your customers telrad isnt for you. The only time this makes sense to me is when your doing NLOS shots. Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 > On Feb 25, 201

Re: [AFMUG] WispAmerica Updates?

2015-02-25 Thread Bill Prince
OK. So a basic sector runs $10K. That's for the initial 100 Mbps. What's the delta to upgrade (the firmware?) to 200 Mbps? 400Mbps? bp On 2/24/2015 9:41 PM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Base station costs too much... $8-10k per sector, CPE's aren't bad through $270'ish or something, ended up be

[AFMUG] WispAmerica Updates?

2015-02-25 Thread Jason Pond
Interesting observations from somebody that's not here. And maybe talking to a small percentage of people that are here. I believe the show is operating just fine and there is always "drama" at shows it has nothing the do with who is doing what and it is always escalated with a change. Big thin

Re: [AFMUG] WispAmerica Updates?

2015-02-25 Thread Adam Moffett
af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *Ryan Ray *Sent:* Tuesday, February 24, 2015 10:54 PM *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WispAmerica Updates? But if you can do 200/400Mb/s out of one sector wouldn't it be worth it? On Tue, Fe

Re: [AFMUG] WispAmerica Updates?

2015-02-25 Thread Rory Conaway
Are you saying that you support 256QAM today? Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 11:57 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WispAmerica Updates? Again, more incorrect assumptions. It really is easy to get good, accurate

Re: [AFMUG] WispAmerica Updates?

2015-02-24 Thread Patrick Leary
Jason, were you sitting in the LTE session this afternoon? If you were, you saw it filled standing room only. From the back of the room, I took a quick count of the number of WISPs there who have at least verbally agreed to pull the trigger on a trial with Telrad LTE. It was over 41. That does not

Re: [AFMUG] WispAmerica Updates?

2015-02-24 Thread Patrick Leary
ilto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ryan Ray > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 24, 2015 10:54 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WispAmerica Updates? > > > > But if you can do 200/400Mb/s out of one sector wouldn't it be worth it? > > > > > >

Re: [AFMUG] WispAmerica Updates?

2015-02-24 Thread Patrick Leary
I am. On Feb 25, 2015 12:56 AM, "Josh Luthman" wrote: > Are you at the show, Patrick? > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > On Feb 25, 2015 12:54 AM, "Patrick Leary" > wrote: > >> Short range? No connectorized flavor? Wrong

Re: [AFMUG] WispAmerica Updates?

2015-02-24 Thread Josh Luthman
Are you at the show, Patrick? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 25, 2015 12:54 AM, "Patrick Leary" wrote: > Short range? No connectorized flavor? Wrong on both counts. > On Feb 24, 2015 11:46 PM, "TJ Trout" wrote: > >> Short ra

Re: [AFMUG] WispAmerica Updates?

2015-02-24 Thread Patrick Leary
Short range? No connectorized flavor? Wrong on both counts. On Feb 24, 2015 11:46 PM, "TJ Trout" wrote: > Short range and no connectorized flavor? > On Feb 24, 2015 9:41 PM, "Kurt Fankhauser" wrote: > >> Base station costs too much... $8-10k per sector, CPE's aren't bad >> through $270'ish or so

Re: [AFMUG] WispAmerica Updates?

2015-02-24 Thread Rory Conaway
I don’t think you can yet. They are still limited to 64QAM. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Ray Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 10:54 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WispAmerica Updates? But if you can do 200/400Mb/s out of one sector wouldn't

Re: [AFMUG] WispAmerica Updates? (Kurt Fankhauser)

2015-02-24 Thread Stefan Englhardt
>Word on the street is "LTE or die" in the next 5 years, take your pick... >Base station costs too much... $8-10k per sector, CPE's aren't bad through >$270'ish or something, ended up being what a 450SM plus reflector cost. For 8-10K you get 200 VDSL Ports capable of up to 100Mbit each. For 270

Re: [AFMUG] WispAmerica Updates?

2015-02-24 Thread TJ Trout
Anyone have a firm grasp on what is required to make this system work besides feeding it ethernet ? I understand there are complicated provisioning and nms systems that are required ? On Feb 24, 2015 9:56 PM, "Kurt Fankhauser" wrote: > Yes, that's the part that has my attention, if this is all tr

Re: [AFMUG] WispAmerica Updates?

2015-02-24 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Yes, that's the part that has my attention, if this is all true and the NLOS works then this might be worth investing in... The vendor seems so confident this will blow you away they are willing to send a sector and 5 CPEfor a 30 day test no obligation... Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications

Re: [AFMUG] WispAmerica Updates?

2015-02-24 Thread Ryan Ray
But if you can do 200/400Mb/s out of one sector wouldn't it be worth it? On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 9:41 PM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: > Base station costs too much... $8-10k per sector, CPE's aren't bad through > $270'ish or something, ended up being what a 450SM plus reflector cost. > > > Kurt Fank

Re: [AFMUG] WispAmerica Updates?

2015-02-24 Thread TJ Trout
Short range and no connectorized flavor? On Feb 24, 2015 9:41 PM, "Kurt Fankhauser" wrote: > Base station costs too much... $8-10k per sector, CPE's aren't bad through > $270'ish or something, ended up being what a 450SM plus reflector cost. > > > Kurt Fankhauser > > Wavelinc Communications > > P

Re: [AFMUG] WispAmerica Updates?

2015-02-24 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Base station costs too much... $8-10k per sector, CPE's aren't bad through $270'ish or something, ended up being what a 450SM plus reflector cost. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Wed, Feb

Re: [AFMUG] WispAmerica Updates?

2015-02-24 Thread Jason McKemie
Ha, that's laughable. From a very specific vendor and/or some ISPs who have committed to their system I'm guessing? ;-) On Tuesday, February 24, 2015, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: > Word on the street is "LTE or die" in the next 5 years, take your pick... > > > Kurt Fankhauser > > Wavelinc Communicati

Re: [AFMUG] WispAmerica Updates?

2015-02-24 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Word on the street is "LTE or die" in the next 5 years, take your pick... Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 9:35 PM, Paul McCall wrote: > Anybody find some cool, new

[AFMUG] WispAmerica Updates?

2015-02-24 Thread Paul McCall
Anybody find some cool, new stuff at WispAmerica? I had to stay behind and keep the wheels spinning. Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.com pa...@pdmnet.net