Re: [AFMUG] BCP38

2015-01-13 Thread David
:* Re: [AFMUG] BCP38 Depends on what you mean by “any prefixes learned by the bgp peers”. I think most upstreams would manually configure route filters to control what BGP advertisements to accept, and maybe also an ACL based on source IP. Otherwise there’s too much risk a customer would advertise

Re: [AFMUG] BCP38

2015-01-12 Thread That One Guy
why wouldnt this be a standard on consumer routers? On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 8:53 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: http://www.bcp38.info/index.php/Main_Page Make sure you implement this in your networks. Drop all outbound traffic to your upstream that is not from valid public IP

Re: [AFMUG] BCP38

2015-01-12 Thread Mike Hammett
@afmug.com Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 9:04:38 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BCP38 why wouldnt this be a standard on consumer routers? On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 8:53 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: http://www.bcp38.info/index.php/Main_Page Make sure you implement this in your

[AFMUG] BCP38

2015-01-12 Thread Mike Hammett
http://www.bcp38.info/index.php/Main_Page Make sure you implement this in your networks. Drop all outbound traffic to your upstream that is not from valid public IP space. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com

Re: [AFMUG] BCP38

2015-01-12 Thread Dennis Burgess
To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BCP38 Hey Mike, Would you be willing to post an iptables statement that would drop this traffic? Thanks, Sean On Monday, January 12, 2015, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: http://www.bcp38.info/index.php/Main_Page Make sure you implement

Re: [AFMUG] BCP38

2015-01-12 Thread Sean Heskett
Hey Mike, Would you be willing to post an iptables statement that would drop this traffic? Thanks, Sean On Monday, January 12, 2015, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: http://www.bcp38.info/index.php/Main_Page Make sure you implement this in your networks. Drop all outbound traffic to

Re: [AFMUG] BCP38

2015-01-12 Thread That One Guy
...@belairinternet.com wrote: I believe the phrase is “all your internets are belong to us” *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown *Sent:* Monday, January 12, 2015 10:25 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] BCP38 Remember when back in the early days, folks could

Re: [AFMUG] BCP38

2015-01-12 Thread Mike Hammett
IRRs help with that as well. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Mon, 12 Jan 2015 12:07:37 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BCP38 Depends on what you mean by “any prefixes

Re: [AFMUG] BCP38

2015-01-12 Thread Ken Hohhof
those blocks. From: Dennis Burgess Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 11:46 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BCP38 Basically ,any IPs that SHOULD be sourced from your network. But yes, the idea behind BCP38 is to block src address packets originating from your network that SHOULD

Re: [AFMUG] BCP38

2015-01-12 Thread Chuck McCown
Remember when back in the early days, folks could announce “all your internets are mine” and take down everything. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 11:07 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BCP38 Depends on what you mean by “any prefixes learned by the bgp peers”. I think

Re: [AFMUG] BCP38

2015-01-12 Thread Dennis Burgess
] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 10:55 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BCP38 Yeah, I’m missing what the big deal is here. If you’re talking about your border router to your upstream, why would you allow outbound traffic with source IPs outside your IP blocks? Allow

Re: [AFMUG] BCP38

2015-01-12 Thread Mike Hammett
If everyone did this, amplification attacks would not occur. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net To: Animal Farm af@afmug.com Sent: Mon, 12 Jan 2015 08:53:32 -0600 (CST) Subject: [AFMUG

Re: [AFMUG] BCP38

2015-01-12 Thread Ken Hohhof
on an LOA. From: Dennis Burgess Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 10:43 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BCP38 Very simple. In MT we do an address list of all valid subnets behind the core routers, this would include any prefixes that you own or use, plus any BGP prefixes learned from

Re: [AFMUG] BCP38

2015-01-12 Thread Eric Markow
I believe the phrase is “all your internets are belong to us” From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 10:25 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BCP38 Remember when back in the early days, folks could announce “all your internets

Re: [AFMUG] BCP38

2015-01-12 Thread Ken Hohhof
I just saw this via CNN: http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/12/politics/centcom-twitter-hacked-suspended/index.html and my reaction was, CENTCOM has a Twitter account? From: Chuck McCown Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 12:25 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BCP38 Remember when back

Re: [AFMUG] BCP38

2015-01-12 Thread Chuck McCown
Sorry, age related dementia... From: Eric Markow Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 11:33 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BCP38 I believe the phrase is “all your internets are belong to us” From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015

Re: [AFMUG] BCP38

2015-01-12 Thread Rory McCann
, 2015 10:55 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] BCP38 Yeah, I’m missing what the big deal is here. If you’re talking about your border router to your upstream, why would you allow outbound traffic with source IPs outside your IP blocks? Allow your IPs, block the rest. If you’re

Re: [AFMUG] BCP38

2015-01-12 Thread Dennis Burgess
...@linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 – www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory McCann Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 12:48 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BCP38 Can you not accomplish the same thing with the RP_Filter option

Re: [AFMUG] BCP38

2015-01-12 Thread Rory McCann
...@linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 – www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Rory McCann *Sent:* Monday, January 12, 2015 12:48 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] BCP38 Can you not accomplish the same thing with the RP_Filter option