Article today about replacement for the T38:
http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/09/politics/new-us-fighter-jet-trainer/index.html


From: Eric Kuhnke 
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2016 6:49 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FAA Warns of GPS Outages on the West CoastSyncdropswarning

They still are:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grumman_F-14_Tomcat#Iran


All politics and embargos aside, it's amazing they've been able to keep them 
flying relying on a limited budget and black market / nonstandard / custom 
fabricated repair parts.




On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 4:45 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:

  F16 is a great, agile platform. Not quite as good as the F15 when it comes to 
maneuvering and raw power though - it's got some tricks!

  I do wish the F14 was still around.

  On Jun 8, 2016 4:43 PM, "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:

    They demo'd an F16 flying at an insane angle of attack one year at a Moffet 
Field open house. He was flying the thing at about 100' AGL down the runway at 
walking speed. Nuts.


    bp
    <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

    On 6/8/2016 11:23 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

      This was all about 1000 AGL too.
      Not much of a cushion should that single engine  on the F16 flame out due 
to super high angle of attack and super slow speed.

      -----Original Message----- From: Robert Andrews
      Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2016 12:20 PM
      To: af@afmug.com
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FAA Warns of GPS Outages on the West Coast 
Syncdropswarning

      A jet jockey's nightmare...   But a really good target for gun
      passes....   The thing you don't want to see them hanging out. Now an
      f22 would have had fun "hanging" with you...

      On 06/08/2016 11:17 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

        I was flying a 150 and got intercepted by a pair of F16s .... well they
        tried to intercept me.

        Once I figured out that they were unhappy (I ever so slightly trimmed
        the corner off of a restricted area and I was in contact all along) I
        decided to have fun.
        Throttle back, nose up, full flaps, throttle up.   Dragging my butt
        along about 40 mph.

        They made multiple passes with everything hanging out but there was no
        way they could do it.

        -----Original Message----- From: Robert Andrews
        Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2016 12:14 PM
        To: af@afmug.com
        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FAA Warns of GPS Outages on the West Coast
        Syncdropswarning

        Restricted vs. MOA's..   it's an interesting airspace mess to need to
        fly around..   Lot's and Lot's of MOA's fewer restricted areas, and if
        you are around either one you need to really do your homework. That
        said the guys at Edwards are a great group of controllers always willing
        to work with civilian traffic and, if the opportunity is there will let
        you be an interception target, a witness to cool stuff ( think B2
        refueling ), or just a bug on the wall when they can't talk about it but
        can give you a visual vector...

        On 06/08/2016 11:07 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

          When you live near restricted areas, and you have a legit reason to be
          flying around them, the military will give you a tactical call sign 
and
          let you through if it is safe.
          If the range is “hot” they will not let you in and you do not want to 
be
          in.
          *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
          *Sent:* Wednesday, June 08, 2016 11:35 AM
          *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
          *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FAA Warns of GPS Outages on the West Coast
          Syncdropswarning
          "i usually try to steer clear of bombing ranges when I fly lol."

          Im definetly no pilot, never even flown in a plane, but if I do ever 
fly
          anywhere, I really would like to know this is a common attitude of 
most
          pilots
          On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 12:27 PM, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us
          <mailto:af...@zirkel.us>> wrote:

              i usually try to steer clear of bombing ranges when I fly lol.
              Last time i flew over the grand canyon tho I had 5 "bear cats"
              (that's how ATC was referring to them over the radio) T-38 jets 
fly
              straight towards me and break left at the last minute.  I heard 
ATC
              talking to them the whole time and ATC was warning me of traffic 
12
              o'clock coming straight for me.  not much I could do except watch
              them go by since i was going 150kts and they were a bit faster
              haha.  it almost seemed a bit on purpose but who knows, i could 
only
              hear what ATC say saying to them, they were responding on another
              frequency.  made the last part of the trip a little less boring,
              after you cross the canyon it's pretty flat and desolate land for
          miles.
              On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 9:25 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com
              <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:

                  If you fly in the blue restricted zones of the Wendover 
Bombing
                  Range or the Utah Test and Training Range, you will notice 
when
                  they are testing.  It is very effective.  Bad thing is it jams
                  your central office BITS clocks too!
                  *From:* Sean Heskett <mailto:af...@zirkel.us>
                  *Sent:* Wednesday, June 08, 2016 9:22 AM
                  *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
                  *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FAA Warns of GPS Outages on the West
                  Coast Sync dropswarning
                  The FAA has been issuing NOTAMS like that for a while now.  
I've
                  been in the air during a couple (live in CO and fly to SoCal a
                  lot) and never noticed loss of GPS.  Looks like a reporter 
from
                  gizmodo finally noticed this NOTAM and wrote about it.
                  Shouldn't be a problem for any ground based GPS units.  And if
                  you own a Phenom 300 then you can just blast up to 45,000ft to
                  avoid the jamming ;)
                  -Sean


                  On Wednesday, June 8, 2016, timothy steele
                  <timothy.pct...@gmail.com <mailto:timothy.pct...@gmail.com>>
          wrote:

                      Gizmodo: FAA Warns of GPS Outages This Month During
                      Mysterious Tests on the West Coast.
                      http://google.com/newsstand/s/CBIwjLfC_Co



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