Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik OSPF weirdness

2016-08-30 Thread David Milholen
net <mailto:dmburg...@linktechs.net> *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul Stewart *Sent:* Saturday, August 27, 2016 10:53 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik OSPF weirdness Very common deployment model … typically in larger networks. Having said that, and a

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik OSPF weirdness

2016-08-29 Thread Dennis Burgess
t Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 10:53 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik OSPF weirdness Very common deployment model … typically in larger networks. Having said that, and as someone else mentioned I believe, folks often feel that OSFP can’t “scale” at all and begin feeling som

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik OSPF weirdness

2016-08-27 Thread Ken Hohhof
And if you get that big, it’s not clear everything needs to be in one area. From: Paul Stewart Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 10:52 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik OSPF weirdness Very common deployment model … typically in larger networks. Having said

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik OSPF weirdness

2016-08-27 Thread Paul Stewart
lt;https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> _ From: "Bruce Robertson" <mailto:br...@pooh.com> <br...@pooh.com> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 6:28:43 PM Subjec

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik OSPF weirdness

2016-08-26 Thread Bruce Robertson
.net *From: *"Bruce Robertson" <br...@pooh.com> *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, August 25, 2016 7:28:42 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik OSPF weirdness I've said it before, and been argued with... this is one

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik OSPF weirdness

2016-08-26 Thread David Milholen
*Thursday, August 25, 2016 7:28:42 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik OSPF weirdness I've said it before, and been argued with... this is one of many reasons why you use iBGP to distribute {customer, dynamic pool, server subnets, anything} routes, and use OSPF *only* to distri

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik OSPF weirdness

2016-08-26 Thread Mike Hammett
@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 11:03:58 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik OSPF weirdness Right, PTP and loopback prefixes are distributed with OSPF (and possibly management subnets for radios) and "access" network prefixes (customer-facing) are distributed via iBGP.

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik OSPF weirdness

2016-08-25 Thread Bruce Robertson
-- *From: *"Bruce Robertson" <br...@pooh.com> *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, August 25, 2016 6:28:43 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik OSPF weirdness I've said it before, and been argued with... this is one of many reasons why you use iBGP to d

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik OSPF weirdness

2016-08-25 Thread Bruce Robertson
on 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net *From: *"Bruce Robertson" <br...@pooh.com> *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, August 25, 2016 7:28:42 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik OSPF weirdness

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik OSPF weirdness

2016-08-25 Thread Jesse DuPont
thers WISP From: "Bruce Robertson" <br...@pooh.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 6:28:43 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik OSPF weirdness I've said

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik OSPF weirdness

2016-08-25 Thread David Milholen
sp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> *From: *"Bruce Robertson" <br...@pooh.com> *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, August 25, 2016 6:28:43 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik OSPF weirdness I've said it before, and been argued with... thi

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik OSPF weirdness

2016-08-25 Thread Mike Hammett
.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 6:28:43 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik OSPF weirdness I've said it before, and been argued with... this is one of many reasons why you use iBGP to distribute {customer, dynamic pool, server subnets, anything} routes, and use OSPF *only* to d

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik OSPF weirdness

2016-08-25 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
ce Robertson" <br...@pooh.com> > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 7:28:42 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik OSPF weirdness > I've said it before, and been argued with... this is one of many reasons why > you > use iBGP to distribute {customer, dynamic

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik OSPF weirdness

2016-08-25 Thread jesse . dupont
Regardless of the culprit, the cause of this will be a misconfiguration of some kind and likely not even with OSPF. OSPF is not weird, nor does it behave badly; it merely reacts to conditions based on a predetermined set of algorithms which are very well documented and implemented, especially

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik OSPF weirdness

2016-08-25 Thread Bruce Robertson
I've said it before, and been argued with... this is one of many reasons why you use iBGP to distribute {customer, dynamic pool, server subnets, anything} routes, and use OSPF *only* to distribute router loopback addresses. All your weird OSPF problems will go away. My apologies if I'm

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik OSPF weirdness

2016-08-25 Thread Ken Hohhof
IP assignments that you wanted to follow the CPE around your network, that would be different. But you could still do that with a non-pool address. From: Robert Haas Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 1:44 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik OSPF weirdness No, I double checked

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik OSPF weirdness

2016-08-25 Thread Robert Haas
Doh – so much for masking the ip’s.. *face palm* From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Robert Haas Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 1:44 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik OSPF weirdness No, I double checked for any more specific routes that encompass

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik OSPF weirdness

2016-08-25 Thread Jesse DuPont
Is it possible another router somewhere is announcing x.x.x.208/28 (or /29 or /30)? You mentioned there is no x.x.x.208/32 router in the route table, but what about other prefix lengths? Are you summarizing your PPPoE prefixes into OSPF by putting them into another

[AFMUG] Mikrotik OSPF weirdness

2016-08-25 Thread Robert Haas
Alright, this problem has raised it head again on my network since I started to renumber some PPPoE pools. Customer gets a new IP address via PPPoE x.x.x.208/32 (from x.x.x.192/27 pool). Customer can't surf and I can't ping them from my office: [office] - [Bernie Router] - [Braggcity Router]