Re: [agi] Re: MindForth is the First Working AGI for robot embodiment.

2018-06-21 Thread A.T. Murray via AGI
John Rose said: > Prob. is only he can read the code! LOL Today I have been porting more JavaScript AI into Forth. MP said: > I’ve honestly tried reading his source and explanations. Thank you for looking into it. Mike Archbold said: > Roll on Arthur... http://ai.neocites.org/var.html -- now is

Re: [agi] Blockchainifying Conscious Awareness

2018-06-21 Thread Nanograte Knowledge Technologies via AGI
Most interesting. So, the timespace continuum is effectively being split? I don't buy it. You cannot sustainably entangle one and not the other, not even as an antithesical exercise. You're just begging for your data to disappear into the Void. From:

Re: [agi] Discrete Methods are Not the Same as Logic

2018-06-21 Thread Nanograte Knowledge Technologies via AGI
Jim, I think for this kind of reasoning to evolve, one would always have to return to an ontological platform. For example, for reasoning, one would require a meta-methodology for reasoning effectively with. For selectively forgetting and learning, an evolution-based methodology is required.

RE: [agi] Re: MindForth is the First Working AGI for robot embodiment.

2018-06-21 Thread John Rose
Ehm, "chunking out code"...that's ah, yeah good way to describe it  I agree. Arthur, you need to elevate yourself man. The Elon Musk's of the world are stealing all the thunder. John > -Original Message- > From: Mike Archbold via AGI > > At least A.T. Murray is in the trenches

Re: [agi] Re: MindForth is the First Working AGI for robot embodiment.

2018-06-21 Thread Mike Archbold via AGI
At least A.T. Murray is in the trenches chunking out code, unlike all of our celebrities like Elon Musk and Bill Gates who, while they may have more money, just write about it! Roll on Arthur... On 6/21/18, MP via AGI wrote: > I’ve honestly tried reading his source and explanations. > > He loses

Re: [agi] Discrete Methods are Not the Same as Logic

2018-06-21 Thread Mike Archbold via AGI
Jim, I see what you mean about symbols vs other discrete data and structures etc. I suppose an "unreadable" piece of data could still be converted into symbols, though. An analogy would be that when we input a sound, it is converted to something, a percept... an AGI could input some unreadable

Re: [agi] Re: MindForth is the First Working AGI for robot embodiment.

2018-06-21 Thread MP via AGI
I’ve honestly tried reading his source and explanations. He loses me at these "perpendicular mental fiber" stuff. Even with my cruddy JavaScript to Java translation I still don’t get it... but it’s something. At least it talks through a ton of weird code. Sent from ProtonMail Mobile On Thu,

[agi] Re: MindForth is the First Working AGI for robot embodiment.

2018-06-21 Thread johnrose
Oh OK everybody you can throw away your keyboards, Mentifex created the first AGI... Prob. is only he can read the code!  LOL John -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink:

Re: [agi] Blockchainifying Conscious Awareness

2018-06-21 Thread johnrose
Here are a more blockchain distributed computing videos. Applicable? Maybe. Entertaining? Yes. The networks are probably laggy since some just use unused machine resources like BOINC but allow buying and selling via coins or tokens. But not every AGI component needs hyper low-latency computing

Re: [agi] Discrete Methods are Not the Same as Logic

2018-06-21 Thread Jim Bromer via AGI
Symbol Based Reasoning is discrete, but a computer can use discrete data that would not make sense to us so the term symbolic might be misleading. I am not opposed to weighted reasoning (like neural networks or Bayesian Networks) and I think reasoning has to use networks of relations. If weighted

Re: [agi] Discrete Methods are Not the Same as Logic

2018-06-21 Thread Nanograte Knowledge Technologies via AGI
A few thoughts... Seems the "disconnect" Jim mentioned, might reside in the knowing part, the consciousness, and not our actions and our thoughts. This morning I was observing an old (highly-experienced cat walking around objects on a table. The cat had known this table for the most part of

Re: [agi] Discrete Methods are Not the Same as Logic

2018-06-21 Thread Mike Archbold via AGI
So, by "discrete reasoning" I think you kind of mean more or less "not neural networks" or I think some people say, or used to say NOT "soft computing" to mean, oh hell!, we aren't really sure how it works, or we can't create what looks like a clear, more or less deterministic program like in the