Re: [agi] The Singularity is not near.

It depends if the pakis can beat us at it,  if it happens or not. so...  i guess not. -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T94ee05730c7d4074-M87c0179b3d867fa2a27f8135 Delivery options:

Re: [agi] The Singularity is not near.

I think all this "singularity" nonsense can be traced back to Heinz von Foerster's impish sense of humor -- at least that's how he struck me when I took a 1974 "second order cybernetics" summer class from him about the time it was

Re: [agi] Re: Ecophagy

I agree with that one T.T.  engineers dont make nature, they make the abomination of nature. :) -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T6f18c199e828a5b6-Mecd1ef6a52f71b5006ca1607 Delivery options:

Re: [agi] Re: Ecophagy

What's the fastest way to up your compute, data intake, experimentation/manipulation, and resist death than to start the nanobot Earth? Most of Earth will be made of nanoGeneral cells, highly flexible small modules that make up larger modules and so on. There will be metal beams, nuclear

Re: [agi] Who wants free cash for the support of AGI creation?

Keghn,  u sound almost on the mark,  except everything is repetition.  once the difference from cross 1 time step to the next, the universe only is doing the one spacial task over and over. I dont know if its true,   but it is a good theory, that it could be true,  depressing or not.

Re: [agi] Who wants free cash for the support of AGI creation?

It's possible that the beginning was a massive clump of randomly or symmetrically placed particles that big banged, or the expanding wall is what spawns particles as expandsthere was no bitstreambut what matters is the laws of particles, there's only a few, there're in every particle in

Re: [agi] Re: Ecophagy

On 2019-11-19 22:20:PM, immortal.discover...@gmail.com wrote: The human body is made of little cells. Our skin, organs, brain, nerves. Bones are really hard though. Is the most optimal form of Earth going to be a nanobot blob if they can't be hard as bone? Yes. They can connect by extending

Re: [agi] Who wants free cash for the support of AGI creation?

You need not compress that big movie, only need store the first frame with laws of physics. It makes you wonder, what was the starting condition... -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink:

Re: [agi] Who wants free cash for the support of AGI creation?

Yes keghn, I said that 2 weeks back, its one big movie roll, lossless compression emerges from nothing, to here, we came from nothin Yes I said this too: " Compression of static data is biasing perceptrion with the illusion, cooking the books, lossy data no mater what.  "

Re: [agi] Who wants free cash for the support of AGI creation?

Just like the failing of chat bots, Compressor heads fail to believe you can take the logic to a more  detailed level.  There is the perceptdron that detects the the letter ore the data.    The universe is one bit stream from a beginning of time, or when a AGI  become conscious, to the  end of

Re: [agi] Who wants free cash for the support of AGI creation?

On Tuesday, November 19, 2019, at 9:44 PM, Matt Mahoney wrote: > What results does your compressor have on some benchmarks? I didn't make one. I was only giving my understanding of the current best by Alex or what may likely be done by him if not already. Since he didn't open source, he must

[agi] Re: Ecophagy

I never thought of that,  that u could make a whole of nanobots be one big one, just like us! yes... -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T6f18c199e828a5b6-Mb96f29e105c2552c248d337f Delivery options:

[agi] Re: Ecophagy

The human body is made of little cells. Our skin, organs, brain, nerves. Bones are really hard though. Is the most optimal form of Earth going to be a nanobot blob if they can't be hard as bone? Yes. They can connect by extending clip-poles into each other. They can be part of a huge organism

Re: [agi] Who wants free cash for the support of AGI creation?

compression does lead to better survivial!!!   whole thing runs better with it Keghn, its very important. -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T26a5f8008aa0b4f8-M1ee6fe026ac6a19c43a61b6b Delivery

Re: [agi] Who wants free cash for the support of AGI creation?

 I can not be a compressor head. AGI science is about patterns. Repeating patterns and repeating  functions is nice but if the compressing dose not lead to better better survival then kicked out   Like in the continuous activation of a paint code.  If pain value  is active for 256 cycles then

[agi] Ecophagy

On 2019-11-08 19:34:PM, Matt Mahoney wrote: self replicating nanotechnology, has the potential to out compete DNA based life. This requires great care because once the technology is cheap, anyone could produce malicious replicators the same way that anyone with a computer can write a virus or

Re: [agi] Who wants free cash for the support of AGI creation?

What results does your compressor have on some benchmarks? On Tue, Nov 19, 2019, 4:19 PM wrote: > On Tuesday, November 19, 2019, at 11:42 AM, Matt Mahoney wrote: > > The best compressors are very complex. They use hundreds or thousands of > independent context models and adaptively combine

[agi] Re: ReLU is a literal switch

 Building An AI (Neural Networks | What Is Deep Learning | Deep Learning Basics): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKN_Cc-GyCY  reLU need is co dependent  on other squashing functions, as stated in this video.  -- Artificial General Intelligence List:

[agi] Re: ReLU is a literal switch

But Sean,  make sure that your system doesnt store square more patterns, when your getting the root matches, or ill knock you off on the outset, via pigeon holing theorem!! -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink:

Re: [agi] The Singularity is not near.

On 2019-11-18 12:45:PM, Matt Mahoney wrote: The premise of the Singularity is that if humans can create smarter than human intelligence (meaning faster or more successful at achieving goals), then so can it, only faster. That will lead to an intelligence explosion because each iteration will

[agi] Re: ReLU is a literal switch

I.D. This is probably not what he means, but it comes from what I know. The dot product is x*a+y*b+z*c  -> on and on... xyz are the weights on the synapses/connections (and these are just 1 or 0.)  u can imagine them as being 1's when the pixel is existing in the picture in the neural network,

[agi] Re: ReLU is a literal switch

So are you saying ReLu based nets are optimizable by removing all need for Relu activation functions? Are you saying in your other post we can optimize each layer? An input has an output in a trained net. If we randomly sample many times, maybe we can build a heterarchy and throw the net in

[agi] Re: ReLU is a literal switch

Thanks I.D. -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T894f73971549b2ee-M22a373e5ec1e5ec4d66bf06a Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription

[agi] Re: ReLU is a literal switch

email is shown if hover over name :) -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T894f73971549b2ee-Mf8832ee7ce9936b04bb4eca5 Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription

Re: [agi] The Singularity is not near.

This is a big discussion, we need a forum, a workplace where we can put on our work boots and hats and get real dirty. -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T94ee05730c7d4074-M9ea792188b2b126a560d1776

[agi] Re: ReLU is a literal switch

Hey Sean,  have u got an email so I can talk to you. This is a root optimization for similarity matching? -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T894f73971549b2ee-Md243c4cfa98cf7b67785aa5d Delivery

Re: [agi] The Singularity is not near.

I did -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T94ee05730c7d4074-Md36fda268e25ac524251df56 Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription

Re: [agi] The Singularity is not near.

Hey WOM and ID,  that thing Sean just posted could be fricken amazing!!!  do u guys understand how good it is? -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T94ee05730c7d4074-M40781d84d92c448fb81eb541 Delivery

Re: [agi] The Singularity is not near.

There's no edit function because it's a mailing list, not a forum.  Once you make your post, it goes to people's e-mail inboxes and you can't call it back. -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink:

Re: [agi] The Singularity is not near.

Interesting post sean. Btw I wanted the edit function on this forum too but you know what we gotta have one place that stores what happened so it's actually just lovely. I already adapted. If you see a few extra posts well, that PART of the adaption... --

Re: [agi] The Singularity is not near.

Hey Sean,   that is an optimizing for nearest neighbour matching???  thats amazing.  where did u learn it - or is it original? -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink:

Re: [agi] The Singularity is not near.

.. current neural networks lack. Is there no edit option on this forum! Me no like. -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T94ee05730c7d4074-Mc61f1a9b88b75b75871cd9be Delivery options:

Re: [agi] The Singularity is not near.

Current neural networks require n squared numerical operations for a network layer of width of n. You can reduce that to nlog(n): https://discourse.processing.org/t/fixed-filter-bank-neural-networks/13424 That is the same efficiency difference between bubble sort and quick sort. There is also

[agi] ReLU is a literal switch

ReLU is a literal switch. An electrical switch is n volts in, n volts out when on. Zero volts out when off. The weighted sum (dot product) of a number of weighted sums is still a linear system. For a particular input to a ReLU neural network all the switches are decidedly in either the on or

Re: [agi] The Singularity is not near.

Physics can't do infinity obviously, but the curve does shoot up quite fast, we get that... However, if one imagines a Earth sized nanobot blob eating the solar system and so on, it could grow exponentially faster I think, the bigger it gets the more it can eat, not linear, however heat death

Re: [agi] Who wants free cash for the support of AGI creation?

On Tuesday, November 19, 2019, at 11:42 AM, Matt Mahoney wrote: > The best compressors are very complex. They use hundreds or thousands of > independent context models and adaptively combine their bit predictions and > encodes the prediction error. The decompressor uses an exact copy of the >

Re: [agi] Who wants free cash for the support of AGI creation?

I get the feeling that the people in this thread who are saying "compression is faster" might really be thinking about levels of abstraction ... the idea of "compressing" low-level concepts into high-level ones by eliminating detail.  If you do all your work at a high level of abstraction, then

Re: [agi] The Singularity is not near.

On Mon, Nov 18, 2019, 2:50 PM wrote: > > What makes you so sure physics doesn't have an exponential singularity > curve for approx. Earth? Nanobots will solve the data need, the computing > need, and the biological experiment need, immediately! Full data-recursion. > No they don't. Nanobots are

Re: [agi] Who wants free cash for the support of AGI creation?

The best compressors are very complex. They use hundreds or thousands of independent context models and adaptively combine their bit predictions and encodes the prediction error. The decompressor uses an exact copy of the model trained on previous output to reconstruct the original data. Most of

[agi] Re: John Carmack: I’m going to work on artificial general intelligence

F**king  poachers. DeepFovea: Using deep learning for foveated reconstruction in AR/VR: https://ai.facebook.com/blog/deepfovea-using-deep-learning-for-foveated-reconstruction-in-ar-vr -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink:

Re: [agi] Standard Model of AGI

ive got an apology, i had an oversight, and i thought i had something i didnt. sorry to say whoops,  i hate it when i create a big load of excitement and accidently send everyone on a fools errand, yet again.   oh well.  at least i can say it now b4 its much more too late.

Re: [agi] Re: The Promise of Artificial Intelligence: Reckoning and Judgment

sorry to let the kids down, i think i was being a bit too foolishly confident, ive got a lot more homework to do... -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T7d3b4d5e985f594d-Mefe107ff2bce6ec4cf7e71c7