RE: [agi] Early Apps.

2002-12-27 Thread Gary Miller
On Dec 26 Ben Goertzel said: >> One basic problem is what's known as "symbol grounding". this >> means that an Ai system can't handle semantics, language-based >> cognition or even advanced syntax if it doesn't understand the >> relationships between its linguistic tokens and patterns in the

Re: [agi] Language and AGI (was Re: Early Apps)

2002-12-27 Thread Jonathan Standley
- Original Message - From: "Shane Legg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 7:48 PM Subject: Re: [agi] Language and AGI (was Re: Early Apps) > > I guess people continue to do AI with languages like English > because that is what is of practical use

RE: [agi] Language and AGI (was Re: Early Apps)

2002-12-27 Thread Ben Goertzel
Shane, I agreed with the wording in your earlier post more ;) It is true that learning Esperanto would be easier for an AI than learning English or Italian. However, I think that if you had an AI capable of mastering the syntax-semantics-pragmatics interface [the really hard part of language, a

Re: [agi] Language and AGI (was Re: Early Apps)

2002-12-27 Thread Shane Legg
I suspect that Esperanto will not be much more difficult to tackle than any current existing language, or at best a *tiny* bit easier. The greatest difficulty of language is not grammar, or spelling, punctuation, etc. To get an AGI to the point of using _any_ language "naturally" on the level hu

[agi] FUNNY: Tenjewberrymud (fwd)

2002-12-27 Thread SMcClenahan
Seriously, how would current state of the art voice recognition software grok this conversation? cheers, Simon -- Forwarded Message: - You must read this aloud (for the full effect). Just say any unfamiliar words phonetically. It's amazing, you wi

[agi] Linguistic DB

2002-12-27 Thread SMcClenahan
I've always considered the whole world/universe as one big database. A system that narrows its focus to a partial set of knowledge contained in say, a computer database, will be excellent when performing within the realm of which that database was created. Everyone needs to start wearing microp

Re: [agi] Natural Language DB's and AI

2002-12-27 Thread ben
Kevin wrote: > We often intelligently use things we do not understand. Computers, > automobiles, our brains, quarks, and so on. Why can't an AGI use words it > does not actually understand, so long as it uses the word properly and > accomplishes the desired result? I think it's fine for an AG

Re: [agi] Language and AGI (was Re: Early Apps)

2002-12-27 Thread Pei Wang
From: "Cliff Stabbert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 6:11 AM > I suspect that Esperanto will not be much more difficult to tackle > than any current existing language, or at best a *tiny* bit easier. > The greatest difficulty of language is not grammar, or spelling, > punctua

Re: [agi] Language and AGI

2002-12-27 Thread Alexander E. Richter
At 06:11 27.12.02 -0500, Cliff wrote: >... >I suspect that Esperanto will not be much more difficult to tackle >than any current existing language, or at best a *tiny* bit easier. >The greatest difficulty of language is not grammar, or spelling, >punctuation, etc. Esperanto is still too complica

[agi] Language and AGI (was Re: Early Apps)

2002-12-27 Thread Cliff Stabbert
Friday, December 27, 2002, 5:15:40 AM, Shane Legg wrote: SL> One other thing; if one really is focused on "natural language" SL> learning why not make things a little easier and use an artificial SL> language like Esperanto? Unlike like highly artificial languages SL> like logic based or maths ba

Re: [agi] Early Apps.

2002-12-27 Thread Shane Legg
Alan Grimes wrote: According to my rule of thumb, "If it has a natural language database it is wrong", I more or less agree... Currently I'm trying to learn Italian before I leave New Zealand to start my PhD. After a few months working through books on Italian grammar and trying to learn lot