[agi] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [Beowulf] new release of GAMMA and MPI/GAMMA]

2006-08-04 Thread Eugen Leitl
- Forwarded message from Giuseppe Ciaccio [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: Giuseppe Ciaccio [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 15:26:15 +0200 (CEST) To: beowulf@beowulf.org Subject: [Beowulf] new release of GAMMA and MPI/GAMMA Hello, this is to inform you that a new release of the Genoa

Re: [agi] fuzzy logic necessary?

2006-08-04 Thread Yan King Yin
I tend to agree with Richard's view and I may build an AGI with symbolic, non-numericalinference. 1. As Russell pointed out, if the priors are not knownor are in extremely low precision,Bayes ruleis not very applicable. Number crunching with priors of 1-2 bits precision is garbage in, garbage

Re: [agi] fuzzy logic necessary?

2006-08-04 Thread Pei Wang
Richard, Thanks for taking the time to explain your position. I actually agree with most what you wrote, though I don't think it is inconsistent with my point, that is, beliefs do need numerical truth values. Let me explain briefly (I have to leave soon). In an AGI system (as least in mine), a

Re: [agi] fuzzy logic necessary?

2006-08-04 Thread Pei Wang
YKY: (1) Your worry about the Bayesian approach is reasonable, but it is not the only possible way to use numerical truth value --- even Ben will agree with me here. ;-) (2) Accuracy is not a big problem, but if you do some experiments on incremental learning, you will soon see that 1-2 digits

Re: [agi] fuzzy logic necessary?

2006-08-04 Thread Ben Goertzel
Hi, It's easy enough to write out algebraic rules for manipulating fuzzy qualifiers like very likely, may, and so forth. It may well be that the human mind uses abstract, intuitive, algebraic-like rules for manipulating these, instead of or in parallel to more quantitative methods... However,

Re: [agi] fuzzy logic necessary?

2006-08-04 Thread Richard Loosemore
Pei I think we are very much in agreement, though perhaps our main difference is in the emphasis, and the exact role played by the numerical truth value I certainly want to emphasize that I think this *is* calculated sometimes. (And I agree that it is not really equivalent to a

[agi] a2i2 is ready to expand team once again

2006-08-04 Thread Peter Voss
Our latest news flash: http://adaptiveai.com/news/ News Flash Our project is progressing well, and we are once again looking to expand our team. This is an opportunity for a select few individuals to become members of our core team, and to significantly contribute to the creation

Re: [agi] fuzzy logic necessary?

2006-08-04 Thread Yan King Yin
Let me reply to everyone here... Pei: You said non-numericheuristics (such as endorsement theory) may run into problems. Yes, but I believe those problems can be solved using further heuristics (eg see wikipedia article on Nixon diamond). If you resolve the Nixon diamond by referring to

Re: [agi] fuzzy logic necessary?

2006-08-04 Thread Ben Goertzel
Ben: I think the problem of contextuality may be solved like this: Examples: John and Mary have many kids. (like, 10) This Chinese restuarant has many customers. (like 100s) Many people in Africa have AIDs. (like 10s of millions) so I propose a rule like this: IF n is significantly the

Re: [agi] fuzzy logic necessary?

2006-08-04 Thread Russell Wallace
On 8/4/06, Yan King Yin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now, figuring out all the heuristical NTV / symbolic qualifier'supdate rules, such thatan AGI will always be internally consistent, and provably increasing in accuracy, is a very non-trivial task. Well indeed it is of course impossible, no matter

Re: [agi] fuzzy logic necessary?

2006-08-04 Thread Ben Goertzel
No. IMO, a simple rule like this does not correctly capture human usage of qualifiers across contexts, and is not adequate for AI purposes Perhaps this rule is a decent high-level approximation, but AGI requires better... -- Ben On 8/4/06, Yan King Yin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ben:

[agi] Google to release trillion word training corpus

2006-08-04 Thread David Hart
Hi, Google has announced the release of a trillion-word training corpus including one billion five-word sequences that appear at least 40 times in a their database of web pages. More at http://googleresearch.blogspot.com/2006/08/all-our-n-gram-are-belong-to-you.html The 6 DVD set will be

Re: [agi] fuzzy logic necessary?

2006-08-04 Thread Yan King Yin
On 8/5/06, Russell Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now, figuring out all the heuristical NTV / symbolic qualifier'supdate rules, such thatan AGI will always be internally consistent, and provably increasing in accuracy, is a very non-trivial task. Well indeed it is of course impossible, no