Re: [agi] Fwd: Articles in this week's Science

2006-10-11 Thread Ben Goertzel
Richard, I tend to agree with you that very little fundamental progress is being made in linking neuron-level dynamics to cognitive-level dynamics. Though it is not my main area of focus (by any means), I have been developing some specific ideas in this regard, in collaboration with a neuroscien

Re: [agi] Fwd: Articles in this week's Science

2006-10-11 Thread Richard Loosemore
Sergio, Your words sound nice in theory, but that is not the way it is happening on the ground. What I tried to say was that neuroscience folks are far too quick to deploy words like "cognition" and "concepts" and "consciousness" (apparently as a way to sound impressive) when in fact their

Re: [agi] Fwd: Articles in this week's Science

2006-10-11 Thread Sergio Navega
Richard, I'm not sure your substitutions of words constitute a valid criticism of the computational neuroscience field. Sure, I may concede that some of the categories they introduce may suffer from some serious flaws. But we cannot forget that we still don't know how the whole neural system work

Re: [agi] Fwd: Articles in this week's Science

2006-10-11 Thread Richard Loosemore
[Warning. The following is short and brutally frank.] This first article (which overviews the others) is a typical piece of neuroscience BS - at least from the point of view of a substantial number of people in the cognitive science community. To get an idea why, let me quote to you three