Re: [agi] Geoffrey Hinton's ANNs

2006-12-13 Thread Philip Goetz
On 12/8/06, Bob Mottram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hinton basically seems to be using the same kind of architecture as Edelman, in that you have both bottom-up and top-down streams of information (or I often just call this feed-forward and feed-back to keep the terminology more consistent with

Re: Motivational Systems of an AI [WAS Re: [agi] RSI - What is it and how fast?]

2006-12-13 Thread Philip Goetz
On 12/5/06, Matt Mahoney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Eric Baum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matt We have slowed evolution through medical advances, birth control Matt and genetic engineering, but I don't think we have stopped it Matt completely yet. I don't know what reason there is to think

Re: Marvin and The Emotion Machine [WAS Re: [agi] A question on the symbol-system hypothesis]

2006-12-13 Thread Philip Goetz
On 12/5/06, BillK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The good news is that Minsky appears to be making the book available online at present on his web site. *Download quick!* http://web.media.mit.edu/~minsky/ See under publications, chapters 1 to 9. The Emotion Machine 9/6/2006( 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9

Re: Motivational Systems of an AI [WAS Re: [agi] RSI - What is it and how fast?]

2006-12-13 Thread Charles D Hixson
Philip Goetz wrote: ... The disagreement here is a side-effect of postmodern thought. Matt is using evolution as the opposite of devolution, whereas Eric seems to be using it as meaning change, of any kind, via natural selection. We have difficulty because people with political agendas -

Re: [agi] NanoSyntax NL parser

2006-12-13 Thread Stephen Reed
This is a better link from the company that I found by Googling nanosyntax: http://nanosyntax.com/ The basic idea is that word senses are not atomic but are composed of something more primitive whose sentence-distributed structure is called nanosyntax. As I am about to write a parser using a

Re: [agi] RSI - What is it and how fast?

2006-12-13 Thread Philip Goetz
On 12/8/06, J. Storrs Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I had to guess, I would say the boundary is at about IQ 140, so the top 1% of humanity is universal -- but that's pure speculation; it may well be that no human is universal, because of inductive bias, and it takes a community to search the

Re: [agi] RSI - What is it and how fast?

2006-12-13 Thread J. Storrs Hall, PhD.
Nope. I think, for example, that the process of evolution is universal -- it shows the key feature of exponential learning growth, but with a very slow clock. So there're other models besides a mammalian brain. My mental model is to ask of a given person, suppose you had a community of 10,000