Re: [agi] Minsky and the AI emergency

2007-10-29 Thread Pei Wang
Minsky's engineering plan can be found in Push Singh's work, which, after Push passing away, hasn't been picked up by anyone else, as far as I can see. A short discussion between Push and me in 2005: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ai-philosophy/message/2472 Pei On 10/29/07, Benjamin Goertzel

RE: [agi] Minsky and the AI emergency

2007-10-29 Thread Edward W. Porter
Ben, Probably my fault. I was so disappointed by its lack of detail, redunancy, verbiage, and statement of the obvious (at least to me) that perhaps I didn't look hard enough for the valuable message, if there was one. Ed -Original Message- From: Benjamin Goertzel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTE

[agi] Re: Toddler Turing test

2007-10-29 Thread Lukasz Stafiniak
No no I'm sorry, this is about placing children as human confederates and judges. On 10/29/07, Lukasz Stafiniak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Some Cognitive Aspects of a Turing Test for Children > Probably, they tested children for humanhood (or adulthood?) using the > Turing test... > - This

Re: [agi] Minsky and the AI emergency

2007-10-29 Thread rooftop8000
so he's gonna start his own project with the designs in his book, if he finds funding? --- Bob Mottram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This recent talk by Marvin Minsky may be of interest. > > http://mitworld.mit.edu/video/484 > > I know some folks on this list have talked about ways of evangeli

Re: [agi] Minsky and the AI emergency

2007-10-29 Thread Benjamin Goertzel
I think his book (Emotion Machine) is fairly interesting as cognitive science, but doesn't descend to a fine enough level of granularity to really be considered AGI design... ben On 10/29/07, Edward W. Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I read about half of Minsky's recent book and found it so

RE: [agi] Minsky and the AI emergency

2007-10-29 Thread Edward W. Porter
I read about half of Minsky's recent book and found it so general as to be of little value. Ed. Porter -Original Message- From: rooftop8000 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 12:15 PM To: agi@v2.listbox.com Subject: Re: [agi] Minsky and the AI emergency so he's go

Re: [agi] Toddler Turing test

2007-10-29 Thread Benjamin Goertzel
Thanks! I have received it twice now from two kind souls, and don't need any more copies ;-) I'll post some comments on it once I've had a chance to read it carefully... ben On 10/29/07, Benjamin Goertzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Can anyone find that paper online for free, or email me a

Re: [agi] Toddler Turing test

2007-10-29 Thread Benjamin Goertzel
Can anyone find that paper online for free, or email me a copy? thx Ben Goertzel On 10/29/07, Lukasz Stafiniak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Perhaps related, haven't read it yet: > > Some Cognitive Aspects of a Turing Test for Children > > http://www.springerlink.com/content/w7572p14l7r4517n/?p=

[agi] Toddler Turing test

2007-10-29 Thread Lukasz Stafiniak
Perhaps related, haven't read it yet: Some Cognitive Aspects of a Turing Test for Children http://www.springerlink.com/content/w7572p14l7r4517n/?p=9c93cf27834c404fbddeab90b2234daf&pi=2 Probably, they tested children for humanhood (or adulthood?) using the Turing test... On 10/18/07, Benjamin Go