Re: [agi] would anyone want to use a commonsense KB?

2008-02-21 Thread Bob Mottram
On 20/02/2008, J Storrs Hall, PhD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, looking at the moon, what color would you say it was? As Edwin Land showed colour perception does not just depend upon the wavelength of light, but is a subjective property actively constructed by the brain.

[agi] color

2008-02-21 Thread J Storrs Hall, PhD
or see this one: http://www.boingboing.net/2008/02/08/color-tile-optical-i.html http://www.lottolab.org/Colour%20illusions%20page.html There's a tile-covered cube shown against 2 backgrounds, and the blue tiles in one are the same actual color as the yellow ones in the other. On Thursday 21

[agi] A Follow-Up Question re Vision.. P.S.

2008-02-21 Thread Mike Tintner
This friend has now pointed out that the distortion of images handled by the visual cortex (and not just the retina) is even more marked than suggested: .. you kind of left out what I thought was most important in my previous reply, but this page shows several links regarding this topic.

Re: [agi] A Follow-Up Question re Vision.. P.S.

2008-02-21 Thread Ben Goertzel
Mike, I'm disappointed that you guys, especially Bob M, aren/t responding to this. It just might be important to how the brain succeeds in perceiving images, while computers are such a failure. This is all well-known information!!! Tomasso Poggio and many others are working on making

Re: [agi] A Follow-Up Question re Vision.. P.S.

2008-02-21 Thread Richard Loosemore
Mike Tintner wrote: This friend has now pointed out that the distortion of images handled by the visual cortex (and not just the retina) is even more marked than suggested: .. you kind of left out what I thought was most important in my previous reply, but this page shows several links

Re: [agi] A Follow-Up Question re Vision.. P.S.

2008-02-21 Thread Richard Loosemore
Mike Tintner wrote: Richard, Thanks for response. But it surely *is* still a puzzle as to how and indeed where that distorted image on the retina gets rectified and raises major questions about vision. Well, no: my point when I replied to you was that it makes no sense to speak of the

Re: [agi] A Follow-Up Question re Vision.. P.S.

2008-02-21 Thread Mike Tintner
Richard, Thanks for response. But it surely *is* still a puzzle as to how and indeed where that distorted image on the retina gets rectified and raises major questions about vision. No one as, I understand, has the answer. I am too ignorant to have a POV here - but my general experience is

Re: [agi] A Follow-Up Question re Vision.. P.S.

2008-02-21 Thread Bob Mottram
On 21/02/2008, Richard Loosemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, no: my point when I replied to you was that it makes no sense to speak of the image as distorted at all. The only way that someone might think of it as distorted is if they think the image is going to be presented on some