A little late on the draw here - I am a new member to the list and was
checking out the archives.  I had an insight into this debate over
understanding.

James Ratcliff wrote:

""Understanding" is a dum-dum word, it must be specifically defined as a
concept
or not used.  Understanding art is a Subjective question.  Everyone has
their
own 'interpretations' of what that means, either brush stokes, or style, or
color, or period, or content, or inner meaning.
But you CANT measure understanding of an object internally like that. There
MUST be an external measure of understanding."

My insight was this:  to ask 'do you understand x?' is too simple for the
subjective realm.  One must qualify with a phrase such as (in the context of
art) 'do you understand x in relation to y' or 'do you understand x as
representing y' or 'do you understand x as a possible meaning for y', etc.
By externally specifying the y, one can gain an objective 'picture' of the
internal subjective state of a person or an AI.  Of course this makes things
pretty complicated when one must analyze all possible y's, however, this
could even become a job for an AI, couldn't it?  If one knows the (or a) set
of possible interpretations (y's), one can begin to inquire as to the
understanding of x within an intelligence.



I would appreciate your feedback.

Thanks for your time,

Kashif Shah

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