Re: [agi] AGI & Int'l Relations

____ From: Steve Richfield To: agi Sent: Mon, August 2, 2010 10:16:23 PM Subject: Re: [agi] AGI & Int'l Relations Matt, On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 1:05 PM, Matt Mahoney wrote: Steve Richfield wrote: >> I would feel a **LOT** better if someone explained SOME scenario to >> e

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Matt, On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 1:05 PM, Matt Mahoney wrote: > Steve Richfield wrote: > > I would feel a **LOT** better if someone explained SOME scenario to > eventually emerge from our current economic mess. > > What economic mess? > > http://www.google.com/publicdata?ds=wb-wdi&ctype=l&strail=fal

Re: [agi] AGI & Int'l Relations

atmaho...@yahoo.com From: Steve Richfield To: agi Sent: Mon, August 2, 2010 11:54:25 AM Subject: Re: [agi] AGI & Int'l Relations Jan I can see that I didn't state one of my points clearly enough... On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Jan Klauck wro

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Jan I can see that I didn't state one of my points clearly enough... On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Jan Klauck wrote: > > > My simple (and completely unacceptable) cure for this is to tax savings, > > to force the money back into the economy. > > You have either consumption or savings. The savi

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On 1 August 2010 21:18, Jan Klauck wrote: > Ian Parker wrote > > > McNamara's dictum seems on > > the face of it to contradict the validity of Psychology as a > > science. > > I don't think so. That in unforseen events people switch to > improvisation isn't suprising. Even an AGI, confronted with

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Steve Richfield wrote > I suspect that this tool could work better than any AGI in the absence of > such a tool. I see an AGI more as a support tool that collects and assesses data, creates and evaluates hypotheses, develops goals and plans how to reach them and assists people with advice. The lo

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Jan, Ian, et al, On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 1:18 PM, Jan Klauck wrote: > > It seems that "*getting things right*" is not a priority > > for politicians. > > Keeping things running is the priority. > ... and there it is in crystal clarity - how things get SO screwed up in small increments, sometimes

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Steve Richfield wrote > Have you ever taken a dispute, completely deconstructed it to determine > its structure, engineered a prospective solution, and attempted to > implement it? No. > How can you, the participants > on this forum, hope to ever bring stability That depends on your definition

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Ian Parker wrote > McNamara's dictum seems on > the face of it to contradict the validity of Psychology as a > science. I don't think so. That in unforseen events people switch to improvisation isn't suprising. Even an AGI, confronted with a novel situation and lacking data and models and rules f

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Ian, On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 1:26 PM, Ian Parker wrote: > > > > Let's take another example. In WW1 the British (and French) shot a large > number of soldiers for cowardice. The Germans shot only 2 and the America

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-jacobson/google-and-cia-invest-in_b_664525.html This is an interesting article. Rather too alarmist though for my taste. This in fact shows the type of social modelling I have in mind. The only problem is that third world countries interactions are *not* on the We

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Jan, On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Jan Klauck wrote: > > This brings me to where I came in. How do you deal with irrational > > decision > > making. I was hoping that social simulation would be seeking to provide > > answers. This does not seem to be the case. > Have you ever taken a dispute,

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This echoes my feelings too. There is one other thing too. After my last posting I realized that what I was talking about was general mathematics rather than AI or AGI. Of course Polaris is AI, very much so, but Von Neumann's nuclear war strategy was an evaluation of Minimax. Mind, once you have a

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Ian Parker wrote > games theory It produced many studies, many strategies, but they weren't used that much in the daily business. It's used more as a general guide. And in times of crisis they preferred to rely on gut feelings. E.g., see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fog_of_War > How do you c

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The only real attempt that I know of was that of Von Neumann and games theory . It was in fact Von Neumann who first suggested things like Prisoner's dilemma. This "*games*" approach led to the MAD

[agi] AGI & Int'l Relations

(If you don't have time to read all this, scroll down to the questions.) I'm writing an article on the role of intelligent systems in the field of International Relations (IR). Why IR? Because in today's (and more so in tomorrow's) world the majority of national policies is influenced by foreign a