Mike Tintner wrote:
And how to produce creativity is the central problem of AGI -
completely unsolved. So maybe a new approach/paradigm is worth at
least considering rather than more of the same? I'm not aware of a
single idea from any AGI-er past or present that directly addresses
that problem - are you?
Bryan; Mike, one of the big problems in computer science is the prediction
of
genotypes from phenotypes in general problem spaces. So far, from what
I've learned, we haven't a way to "guarantee" that a resulting process
is going to be creative. So it's not going to be "solved" per-se in the
traditional sense of "hey look, here's a foolproof equivalency of
creativity." I truly hope I am wrong. This is a good way to be wrong
about the whole thing, I must admit.
Bryan,
Thanks for comments. First, you definitely sound like you will enjoy and
benefit from Kauffman's Reinventing the Sacred - v. much extending your 1st
sentence.
Second, you have posed a fascinating challenge. How can one guarantee
creativity? I was going to say but of course not, you can only guarantee
non-creativity by using programs and rational systems. True creativity can
be extremely laborious and involve literally "far-fetched" associations.
But actually, yes, I think you may be able to guarantee creativity with a
high degree of probability. That is, low-level creativity. Not social
creativity - creative associations that no one in society has thought of
before. But personal creativity. Novel personal associations that if not
striking fit the definition. Let's see. Prepare to conduct an experiment. I
will show you a series of associations - you will quickly grasp the
underlying principle - you must, *thinking visually*, continue freely
associating with the last one (or, actually, any one). See what your mind
comes up with - and let's judge the results. (Everyone else is encouraged to
try this too - in the interests of scientific investigation).
http://www.bearskinrug.co.uk/_articles/2005/09/16/doodle/hero.jpg
[Alternatively, simply start with an image of a snake, and freely, visually
associate with that.]
P.S. You will notice, Bryan, that this test - these metamorphoses - are
related to the nature of the evolution of new species from old.
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