Re: [agi] AGI morality - goals and reinforcement values

2003-02-11 Thread Eliezer S. Yudkowsky
Bill Hibbard wrote: On Wed, 12 Feb 2003, Philip Sutton wrote: Ben/Bill, My feeling is that goals and ethics are not identical concepts. And I would think that goals would only make an intentional ethical contribution if they related to the empathetic consideration of others. Absolutely goals

RE: [agi] AGI morality - goals and reinforcement values

2003-02-11 Thread Bill Hibbard
On Wed, 12 Feb 2003, Philip Sutton wrote: > Ben/Bill, > > My feeling is that goals and ethics are not identical concepts. And I > would think that goals would only make an intentional ethical > contribution if they related to the empathetic consideration of others. > . . . Absolutely goals (I pr

RE: [agi] AGI morality - goals and reinforcement values - plus early learning

2003-02-11 Thread Philip Sutton
Ben, > Right from the start, even before there is an intelligent autonomous mind > there, there will be goals that are of the basic structural character of > ethical goals. I.e. goals that involve the structure of "compassion", of > adjusting the system's actions to account for the well-being of

RE: [agi] AGI morality - goals and reinforcement values

2003-02-11 Thread Ben Goertzel
> Ben/Bill, > > My feeling is that goals and ethics are not identical concepts. One needs to be careful in using words to describe mathematical/software concepts. The English word "goal" has a lot of meanings, and is not identical to the behavior of "goal nodes" or "goal maps" in Novamente. Go

RE: [agi] AGI morality - goals and reinforcement values

2003-02-11 Thread Philip Sutton
Ben/Bill, My feeling is that goals and ethics are not identical concepts. And I would think that goals would only make an intentional ethical contribution if they related to the empathetic consideration of others. So whether ethics are built in from the start in the Novamente architecture dep