Re: Re: Re: [agi] Goals and subgoals

2006-12-08 Thread Ben Goertzel
Initially, the Novamente system's motivations will be -- please its human teachers -- make sure its goal system maintains certain desirable meta-goal properties -- learn and create new information Designing the right initial goal system for the representationally explicit portion of the

Re: Re: Re: Re: [agi] Goals and subgoals

2006-12-08 Thread Ben Goertzel
On 12/8/06, James Ratcliff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What are the meta-goal properties there defined? For example: -- have as few distinct supergoals as possible -- keep the supergoals as simple as possible -- avoid logical contradiction between supergoals -- minimize pragmatic, probabilistic

Re: Re: Re: Re: [agi] Goals and subgoals

2006-12-08 Thread Ben Goertzel
I intend to start at a bit higher age level of teen / reduced knowledge adult, That is not possible in an approach that, like Novamente, is primarily experiential-learning-based... -- Ben - This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options,

Re: Re: Re: Re: [agi] Goals and subgoals

2006-12-08 Thread James Ratcliff
Right now, the only representationally explicit goal is please the teacher. Learning/creating information is as of now left as an implicit goal. But once the system has reached Piaget's formal stage, it will be useful to make learning/creating information a reflectively (and possibly

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [agi] Goals and subgoals

2006-12-08 Thread Ben Goertzel
Humans give subtler rewards to each other (not just one-dimensional rewards) because we share a complex emotional/social system. Potentially, AGIs could learn to accept complex, nuanced rewards from humans via interacting with them in a sim world for a while, in a variety of situations... This

Re: Re: Re: [agi] Goals and subgoals

2006-12-07 Thread Ben Goertzel
I believe that the human mind incorporates **both(( a set of goal stacks (mainly useful in deliberative thought), *and* a major role for diffuse motivational constraints (guiding most mainly-unconscious thought). I suggest that functional AGI systems will have to do so, also. Also, I believe