Re: AI isn't cheap (was Re: Real vs. simulated environments (was Re: [agi] draft for comment.. P.S.))

2008-09-07 Thread Steve Richfield
A-12-06, IDSIA / USI-SUPSI, Dalle Molle > Institute for Artificial Intelligence, Galleria 2, 6928 Manno, Switzerland. > > http://www.vetta.org/documents/IDSIA-12-06-1.pdf > > > -- Matt Mahoney, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --- On *Sat, 9/6/08, Steve Richfield <[EMAIL PROTE

Re: AI isn't cheap (was Re: Real vs. simulated environments (was Re: [agi] draft for comment.. P.S.))

2008-09-06 Thread Matt Mahoney
9/6/08, Steve Richfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Steve Richfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: AI isn't cheap (was Re: Real vs. simulated environments (was Re: [agi] draft for comment.. P.S.)) To: agi@v2.listbox.com Date: Saturday, September 6, 2008, 2:58 PM Matt,   I h

Re: AI isn't cheap (was Re: Real vs. simulated environments (was Re: [agi] draft for comment.. P.S.))

2008-09-06 Thread Steve Richfield
Matt, I heartily disagree with your view as expressed here, and as stated to my by heads of CS departments and other "high ranking" CS PhDs, nearly (but not quite) all of whom have lost the "fire in the belly" that we all once had for CS/AGI. I DO agree that CS is like every other technological e

AI isn't cheap (was Re: Real vs. simulated environments (was Re: [agi] draft for comment.. P.S.))

2008-09-05 Thread Matt Mahoney
--- On Fri, 9/5/08, Steve Richfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I think that a billion or so, divided up into small pieces to fund EVERY >disparate approach to see where the "low hanging fruit" is, would go a >LONG way in guiding subsequent billions. I doubt that it would take a >trillion to succee

Re: Real vs. simulated environments (was Re: [agi] draft for comment.. P.S.)

2008-09-05 Thread Steve Richfield
Matt, FINALLY, someone here is saying some of the same things that I have been saying. With general agreement with your posting, I will make some comments... On 9/4/08, Matt Mahoney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- On Thu, 9/4/08, Valentina Poletti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Ppl like Ben arg

Real vs. simulated environments (was Re: [agi] draft for comment.. P.S.)

2008-09-04 Thread Matt Mahoney
--- On Thu, 9/4/08, Valentina Poletti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Ppl like Ben argue that the concept/engineering aspect of intelligence is >independent of the type of environment. That is, given you understand how >to make it in a virtual environment you can then tarnspose that concept >into a rea