Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Changing officers

2007-04-03 Thread Michael Slone
On 4/3/07, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I intend to make Maud Herald by Agoran Consent. You're doing this for the pun, aren't you? -- Michael Slone

DIS: Re: BUS: VC spending

2007-04-03 Thread Quazie
Why thank you On 4/3/07, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I spend one VC to increase Goethe's VLOP by 1. I spend one VC to increase Zefram's VLOP by 1. I spend one VC to increase the Pineapple Partnership's VLOP by 1. I spend one VC to increase Quazie's VLOP by 1. I spend one VC to increas

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Changing officers

2007-04-03 Thread Jonathan Fry
--- Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I intend to make Maud Herald by Agoran Consent. > > I intend to make Sherlock Promotor by Agoran Consent. If finding officers is such an issue (and I'm probably not going to consent to the above), would it be time to consider automating some of these pro

DIS: ancient rulesets

2007-04-03 Thread Zefram
For the curious, I've posted some of the oldest rulesets I've found at . In addition to the 1993-08-28 ruleset that I pointed at some days ago, there's a fascinating version from 1994-11-22 provided by Vanyel. This version is from when amendment numbers were pr

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Changing officers

2007-04-03 Thread Zefram
Jonathan Fry wrote: >If finding officers is such an issue (and I'm probably not going to >consent to the above), would it be time to consider automating some of >these processes? Historically, many officeholders have used some degree of automation. I think a better way of putting what you're aimin

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Changing officers

2007-04-03 Thread Quazie
On 4/3/07, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Jonathan Fry wrote: >If finding officers is such an issue (and I'm probably not going to >consent to the above), would it be time to consider automating some of >these processes? Historically, many officeholders have used some degree of automation. I

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Changing officers

2007-04-03 Thread Zefram
Quazie wrote: >Unless the automated sites e-mailed a properly formated proposal to the >forum. Thus keeping both an updated archive and an automated system. No, this still means there's no archive of what the submitter actually submitted. There's only a record of what the automaton perceived. Th

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Changing officers

2007-04-03 Thread Ian Kelly
I would be happy to add this kind of automation to the existing proposal archive website, in whatever form is ultimately agreed upon. -root On 4/3/07, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Quazie wrote: >Unless the automated sites e-mailed a properly formated proposal to the >forum. Thus keeping b

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Changing officers

2007-04-03 Thread Jonathan Fry
--- Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > No, this still means there's no archive of what the submitter actually > submitted. There's only a record of what the automaton perceived. How do you know that a message sent by the mailing lists is actually what was typed in by the user? Simple: the us

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Changing officers

2007-04-03 Thread Zefram
Jonathan Fry wrote: >How do you know that a message sent by the mailing lists is actually what >was typed in by the user? Simple: the user objects if it is not. It helps that mail transmission is a very standardised and reliable service. I do not believe we have had even a single instance of a m

BUS: Re: DIS: Changing officers

2007-04-03 Thread Kerim Aydin
Zefram wrote: > I suggest that if you want to manage the proposal pool largely > automatically then the automaton should accept submissions via email. > You just need to announce "I prefer to receive proposal submissions in > this format: ...", and program the automaton to parse email messages >

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Changing officers

2007-04-03 Thread Zefram
Kerim Aydin wrote: >For example, on matters which are performed "by submission to the >CotC" or for private votes (which we don't have), the Officer can >let it be known "I will consider clicking this radio button to be >communication with me." Yes, I believe that could be done now without changin

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Changing officers

2007-04-03 Thread Ed Murphy
Maud wrote: On 4/3/07, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I intend to make Maud Herald by Agoran Consent. You're doing this for the pun, aren't you? What pun? Now if your nickname was Lloyd...

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Changing officers

2007-04-03 Thread Michael Slone
On 4/3/07, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What pun? Now if your nickname was Lloyd... How do you do? I am Dame Marjorie Chardin, but you may call me Maude. -- C. Maude Imag (Michael Slone) Holy cow! This means "This Time to the Public Forum"! -- Sherlock, in agora-discus

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Changing officers

2007-04-03 Thread Levi Stephen
I think it's very possible that our low level of "user friendliness" is what is keeping us from drawing in and keeping new players. That agora is played over email is one of the reasons I like it. That might just be me however. I like the simplicity that email presents (rather than having to

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Changing officers

2007-04-03 Thread Zefram
Levi Stephen wrote: >So, in this respect some fairly simple changes that could help here are: We should have a better front page at first. *Then* link to that from nomic.net. Could also get Suber to update his listing, as he has three outdated URLs for Agora. But havi