Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Agoran Chromodynamics

2007-04-12 Thread Kerim Aydin
OscarMeyr wrote: > Any labor above basic grunt (and sometimes even that) isn't truly > fungible. Zefram wrote: > that's a pretty standard service and you can to a large extent exchange > one accountant for another. But what we do? No. Our offices are not > so mechanical. I mispoke here.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Agoran Chromodynamics

2007-04-12 Thread Ed Murphy
Goethe wrote: The second point, though, is plain old critical mass. At the time I joined, the game peaked at perhaps 15 players who were actively participating plus another 10 who were semi-active. That's a vastly different dynamic the current ~10 players. When we dismantled the currency sys

Re: DIS: BUS: Proposal: Return of the Contests

2007-04-12 Thread Ed Murphy
Goethe wrote: Rule 2128 allows you to specify a contest to determine the next winner. It doesn't say you have to run the contest. If I come up with a good contest and offer to run it, would you be willing to invite players to enter to win as per R2128? I don't see why not. In any case, yo

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proto-Proposal: Omnibus Judicial Reform Act of 2007

2007-04-12 Thread Ed Murphy
Zefram wrote: Ed Murphy wrote: A player may change emself from sitting or lying down, or vice versa, by announcement. s/,/ to standing,/ No, actually I meant "from sitting to lying down, or vice versa". If you're standing, then you must wait till you're assigned something (switch

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Agoran Chromodynamics

2007-04-12 Thread Michael Slone
On 4/12/07, Benjamin Schultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What were CFJs 163 - 662? Were they all frivolous? CFJ n had the form ``CFJ n-1 was illegal and shall be retracted''. -- Michael Slone

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Agoran Chromodynamics

2007-04-12 Thread Zefram
Kerim Aydin wrote: >When you create a virtual currency, and then it becomes substantial >enough that you have to create virtual virtual currencies by issuing >bonds, you're doing something right! I think if you got to such a level of derivatives trading then you must have had an interesting game.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Agoran Chromodynamics

2007-04-12 Thread Benjamin Schultz
On Apr 12, 2007, at 12:48 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: You say that "expertise can't be fungible", but isn't that what a real life service economy is (trading your specific labor/skills for a fungible commodity)? Any labor above basic grunt (and sometimes even that) isn't truly fungible. Take a h

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Agoran Chromodynamics

2007-04-12 Thread Benjamin Schultz
On Apr 12, 2007, at 1:09 AM, Zefram wrote: Ed Murphy wrote: Repeal Rule 2126 (Voting Credits). Not going to turn pre-existing VCs into beads? Good idea at least in abstract. When I created VCs, I seeded the game by giving everybody 2 credits to start with. So how about seeding each pla

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Voting Limits

2007-04-12 Thread Benjamin Schultz
On Apr 12, 2007, at 5:26 AM, Zefram wrote: Benjamin Schultz wrote: Pineapple Partnership, c/o Zefram and Goethe 1 2 0 Didn't the Pineapple Partnership get a VC for judging? -zefram I can't find the records, and it probably happened when I had my mind on something el

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Agoran Chromodynamics

2007-04-12 Thread Benjamin Schultz
On Apr 12, 2007, at 2:11 AM, Zefram wrote: (This was in fact done back in 1994, when judicial salaries were in Points, and is why no one ever references CFJs 163 to 662.) What were CFJs 163 - 662? Were they all frivolous? I'd better check the rules to make sure the CotC can throw out obvio

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Agoran Chromodynamics

2007-04-12 Thread Kerim Aydin
Zefram wrote: > Please don't, that really sucked. The current less direct system, of > buying voting power which can be exercised on all (Ordinary) proposals, > is vastly better. I disagree that this sucked, I thought it worked reasonably well and was very interesting. Maybe it was more interes

DIS: BUS: Proposal: Return of the Contests

2007-04-12 Thread Kerim Aydin
H. Speaker Murphy, Rule 2128 allows you to specify a contest to determine the next winner. It doesn't say you have to run the contest. If I come up with a good contest and offer to run it, would you be willing to invite players to enter to win as per R2128? In any case, your proposal should

DIS: proto: allow Speaker deregistration

2007-04-12 Thread Zefram
Proto-proposal: allow Speaker deregistration; AI=3 {{{ Amend rule 101 by deleting the words "besides the Speaker". Amend rule 103 to read: There should always be exactly one player who is the Speaker. No one other than a player can be Speaker, and there can never be more than

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Agoran Chromodynamics

2007-04-12 Thread Zefram
Ed Murphy wrote: > At the end of each quarter, half of each player's supply of > each type of bead (rounding up) are destroyed. On reflection, this is a particularly good provision. It means that, in the absence of spending, bead holdings change in an AIMD pattern (additive increase, mu