Re: DIS: Proto: Digits

2007-12-02 Thread Taral
On 12/2/07, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If M and N are not contiguous, then it's more difficult because the > desired output range is not contiguous. Using the C-style conditional > operator, and C syntax, how about (given M < N): > > t = 4*(X == M ? 0 : 1) + 2*(Y == M ? 0 : 1) + (

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: judicial status

2007-12-02 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Sun, 2 Dec 2007, Ed Murphy wrote: >> On Mon, 3 Dec 2007, Zefram wrote: >>> ID AP? DISP JUDGE >>> 1799a yes open Goethe, Murphy, root >>> 1805a yes open Goethe, Murphy, root >> >> Have we given em 4 days to produce evidence yet? root, would you like >> to author the final opinions

DIS: Re: OFF: judicial status

2007-12-02 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Mon, 3 Dec 2007, Zefram wrote: > ID AP? DISP JUDGE > 1799a yes open Goethe, Murphy, root > 1805a yes open Goethe, Murphy, root Have we given em 4 days to produce evidence yet? root, would you like to author the final opinions here? > 1807a yes open Goddess Eris, Goethe, Woobl

DIS: Re: OFF: Short Logical Ruleset

2007-12-02 Thread Ed Murphy
Zefram wrote: Note: this ruleset currently shows rule histories as they would be if CFJ 1711 were TRUE. In fact CFJ 1711 is FALSE, so the affected rule histories are shown incorrectly. This will be corrected in a future edition. We've been waiting for this correction for over a month now. P

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Response to the failure to define a dependent contract

2007-12-02 Thread Josiah Worcester
On Sunday 02 December 2007 17:03:31 Ian Kelly wrote: > On Dec 2, 2007 4:39 PM, Josiah Worcester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have 100 points. I win the game. > > You may want to brush up on the penultimate paragraph of R2136... > > -root > Shit. Oh well; there's a *reason* I submitted those

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Registration

2007-12-02 Thread Levi Stephen
Josiah Worcester wrote: On Sunday 02 December 2007 16:54:55 Levi Stephen wrote: Josiah Worcester wrote: If Agora's Child was not a player before, the AFO announces the following: Agora's Child registers as a player. I'm not sure this achieves anything. I believe to register as a player that p

DIS: Re: BUS: Registration

2007-12-02 Thread Ed Murphy
Levi wrote: Josiah Worcester wrote: If Agora's Child was not a player before, the AFO announces the following: Agora's Child registers as a player. I'm not sure this achieves anything. I believe to register as a player that player has to announce that they register. The AFO is able to co

DIS: Re: BUS: Response to the failure to define a dependent contract

2007-12-02 Thread Ian Kelly
On Dec 2, 2007 4:39 PM, Josiah Worcester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have 100 points. I win the game. You may want to brush up on the penultimate paragraph of R2136... -root

DIS: Re: BUS: Registration

2007-12-02 Thread Josiah Worcester
On Sunday 02 December 2007 16:54:55 Levi Stephen wrote: > Josiah Worcester wrote: > > If Agora's Child was not a player before, the AFO announces the following: > > Agora's Child registers as a player. > > I'm not sure this achieves anything. > > I believe to register as a player that player has

DIS: Re: BUS: Intent to amend AFO charter

2007-12-02 Thread Levi Stephen
Ed Murphy wrote: I intend, with the consent of all other partners, to amend the AFO charter by replacing clause 3 with this text: 3. The AFO may incur obligations, rights, and privileges under the rules of other nomics. The Partners may act on behalf of the AFO to satisfy such obligations and t

Re: DIS: Proto: Digits

2007-12-02 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Dec 2, 2007 6:22 PM, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Josiah Worcester wrote: > >Clearly, we should establish a C interpreter into Agora. :p > > C is too tied to machine architecture for our purposes. Much better to > use a programming language that has no inherent connection to machine > ar

DIS: Re: BUS: Intent to amend AFO charter

2007-12-02 Thread Josiah Worcester
On Sunday 02 December 2007 16:46:28 Ed Murphy wrote: > I intend, with the consent of all other partners, to amend the AFO > charter by replacing clause 3 with this text: > > 3. The AFO may incur obligations, rights, and privileges under the > rules of other nomics. The Partners may act on behalf

Re: DIS: Proto-contest: Brainfuck Golf Draft 4

2007-12-02 Thread Zefram
Josiah Worcester wrote: >2) A week after the announcement, the contestmaster SHALL select one program >which implements the task which is smaller than all other submitted programs. E can't do this in the case of a tie. >3) If two programs or more programs tie for size, then each contestant who

Re: DIS: Proto-contest: Brainfuck Golf

2007-12-02 Thread Josiah Worcester
On Sunday 02 December 2007 16:26:14 Zefram wrote: > Josiah Worcester wrote: > >I intend, without two objections, to create the following contract for the > >purposes of a contest: > > That mechanism is currently broken. Proposal 5305 added the requirement > to rule 2136 for a contest to be "a de

Re: DIS: Proto: Digits

2007-12-02 Thread Buddha Buck
On Dec 2, 2007 6:22 PM, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Josiah Worcester wrote: > >Clearly, we should establish a C interpreter into Agora. :p > > C is too tied to machine architecture for our purposes. Much better to > use a programming language that has no inherent connection to machine > ar

Re: DIS: Proto-contest: Brainfuck Golf

2007-12-02 Thread Zefram
Josiah Worcester wrote: >I intend, without two objections, to create the following contract for the >purposes of a contest: That mechanism is currently broken. Proposal 5305 added the requirement to rule 2136 for a contest to be "a dependent contract", but failed to amend rule 1742 to define "de

Re: DIS: Proto: Digits

2007-12-02 Thread Zefram
Josiah Worcester wrote: >Clearly, we should establish a C interpreter into Agora. :p C is too tied to machine architecture for our purposes. Much better to use a programming language that has no inherent connection to machine architecture at all, most likely a functional one or a nearly-functiona

Re: DIS: Proto: Digits

2007-12-02 Thread Josiah Worcester
> Using the C-style conditional operator, and C syntax [...] > if using a C-style conditional operator: [...] Clearly, we should establish a C interpreter into Agora. :p

Re: DIS: Proto: Digits

2007-12-02 Thread Zefram
Ed Murphy wrote: >Trivially so; if you have M and N farms, then replace X with X-M >and Y with Y-N. Not quite. It's easy (I would say trivial except that people are getting it wrong) if N = (M+1) % 10. In that case, replace X with (X-M), Y with (Y-M), and Z with (Z-M). That gets you a machine t

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Registration, CFJS

2007-12-02 Thread Josiah Worcester
On Sunday 02 December 2007 16:06:40 Ian Kelly wrote: > On Dec 2, 2007 4:00 PM, Josiah Worcester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The AFO CFJs on the following: The AFO is a player and a partnership. > > Arguments against: The AFO's contract sates that its members *may* act on > > behalf of the AFO to

DIS: Re: BUS: Registration, CFJS

2007-12-02 Thread Ian Kelly
On Dec 2, 2007 4:00 PM, Josiah Worcester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The AFO CFJs on the following: The AFO is a player and a partnership. > Arguments against: The AFO's contract sates that its members *may* act on > behalf of the AFO to satisfy its obligations, not that they must. By rule > 2145,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Observation. . .

2007-12-02 Thread Josiah Worcester
On Sunday 02 December 2007 15:36:35 Zefram wrote: > Josiah Worcester wrote: > > I take back my offer of 100 marks to all who vote > >against that. > > Ooh, equity case ahoy. Anyone who has voted in accordance with your > offer has presumably implicitly formed a contract w

DIS: Re: BUS: Observation. . .

2007-12-02 Thread Zefram
Josiah Worcester wrote: > I take back my offer of 100 marks to all who vote >against that. Ooh, equity case ahoy. Anyone who has voted in accordance with your offer has presumably implicitly formed a contract with you. Or at least, so it can be argued. -zefram

DIS: Re: OFF: rulekeepor's notes on proposals 5292-5319

2007-12-02 Thread Josiah Worcester
On Sunday 02 December 2007 15:24:05 Zefram wrote: > I'll note here the full sequence in which proposals were adopted, > because it's quite convoluted in this case. > So, you publishing the ruleset?

Re: DIS: Proto-contest: Brainfuck Golf Draft 4

2007-12-02 Thread Ian Kelly
On Dec 2, 2007 1:09 PM, Josiah Worcester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 3) If two programs or more programs tie for size, then each contestant who was > tied is awarded 1 point. If more than 10 points will be assigned, then the > contestants who will be awarded points SHALL be selected at random. ".

DIS: Proto-contest: Brainfuck Golf Draft 4

2007-12-02 Thread Josiah Worcester
I intend, without two objections, to create the following contract for the purposes of a contest: Brainfuck Golf 1) Every week, the contestmaster SHALL announce a new task to be implemented in Brainfuck. 2) A week after the announcement, the contestmaster SHALL select one program which implemen

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Formalize judicial findings

2007-12-02 Thread Benjamin Schultz
On Dec 2, 2007, at 2:19 AM, Ed Murphy wrote: Proposal: Formalize judicial findings (AI = 3, please) Amend Rule 591 (Inquiry Cases) by replacing this text: The judgement of the question in an inquiry case SHOULD guide future play, including future judgements, but does not directly

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Token fines

2007-12-02 Thread Ian Kelly
On Dec 2, 2007 2:31 AM, Taral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can you arbitrarily destroy Marks? Yes; R2166 paragraph 5. -root

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Token fines

2007-12-02 Thread Taral
On 12/1/07, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >* FINE with an integer from 1 to 100, appropriate for rule > breaches of small consequence. When in effect, the ninny > SHALL within 72 hours destroy the specified number of Marks, > or 1 VC, of the color(s) of ei