Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Brainfuck Golf, Hole #1

On Tue, 11 Dec 2007, Ian Kelly wrote: > The task doesn't disallow it. If it's somehow helpful to do that, go for it. However, can you clarify: the list of allowable printing methods permits different bases as long as its consistent, but just printing out the ASCII character for each number and

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Brainfuck Golf, Hole #1

On Dec 11, 2007 7:52 PM, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Monday 10 December 2007, Ian Kelly wrote: > > We'll begin relatively simple: the first task for Brainfuck Golf is > > to print out all the prime numbers (and only the prime numbers) less > > than 256, delimited by newlines, and then te

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5358-5372

Iammars wrote: On Dec 11, 2007 9:47 PM, Levi Stephen <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: TTttPF What's that for? This Time to the Public/Proper Forum -- -Iammars www.jmcteague.com

DIS: Re: BUS: Brainfuck Golf, Hole #1

On Monday 10 December 2007, Ian Kelly wrote: > We'll begin relatively simple: the first task for Brainfuck Golf is > to print out all the prime numbers (and only the prime numbers) less > than 256, delimited by newlines, and then terminate. Am I allowed to print out a prime more than once? signa

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5358-5372

On Dec 11, 2007 9:47 PM, Levi Stephen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > TTttPF > > > What's that for? -- -Iammars www.jmcteague.com

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5358-5372

On Tuesday 11 December 2007 19:46:40 Levi Stephen wrote: > > > > NUM FL AI SUBMITTER TITLE > > 5358 D1 2Murphy 1 is 1 > FOR > > 5359 D1 2Murphy Concurring opinions > FOR > > 5360 O1 1.7 Murphy Clarify judicial precedent > 10xFOR > > 5361 O1 1.7 Goethe D

DIS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5358-5372

NUM FL AI SUBMITTER TITLE 5358 D1 2Murphy 1 is 1 FOR 5359 D1 2Murphy Concurring opinions FOR 5360 O1 1.7 Murphy Clarify judicial precedent 10xFOR 5361 O1 1.7 Goethe Dissent! 10xFOR 5362 O1 1.5 rootContracting out locations 10xFOR 5

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5358-5372

On Dec 11, 2007, at 9:36 PM, Nick Vanderweit wrote: I dance the dance of NTTPF. - Benjamin Schultz KE3OM OscarMeyr

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5358-5372

In case any record keepers are confused, yes, I am avpx. On Dec 11, 2007 7:36 PM, Nick Vanderweit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 5358:FOR > 5359:AGAINST > 5360:FORx4 > 5361:FORx4 > 5362:FORx4 > 5363:FOR > 5364:FOR > 5365:AGAINSTx4 > 5366:AGAINSTx4 > 5367:AGAINSTx4 > 5368:AGAINSTx4 > 5369:AGAINSTx4 >

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5358-5372

5358:FOR 5359:AGAINST 5360:FORx4 5361:FORx4 5362:FORx4 5363:FOR 5364:FOR 5365:AGAINSTx4 5366:AGAINSTx4 5367:AGAINSTx4 5368:AGAINSTx4 5369:AGAINSTx4 5370:FOR 5371:FORx4 5372:FORx4 On Dec 11, 2007 6:05 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 5358 D1 2Murphy 1 is 1 > FOR > > > 5359 D

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: A suggestion

Levi Stephen wrote: Josiah Worcester wrote: I suggest that all Agorans come to aid our fellow nomic, B Nomic, in a time of need. Currently, its rules seem to be breaking down. The Grand Chancellor of B has taken control of the game state. Therefore, I request that all true Agorans search for a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: A suggestion

On Dec 11, 2007, at 9:24 PM, Levi Stephen wrote: Josiah Worcester wrote: I suggest that all Agorans come to aid our fellow nomic, B Nomic, in a time of need. Currently, its rules seem to be breaking down. The Grand Chancellor of B has taken control of the game state. Therefore, I request t

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: A suggestion

On Dec 11, 2007 9:24 PM, Levi Stephen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oh, and then they try to declare war on us ;) > > Levi > Honestly, what do you expect colonies to do? They usually don't sit there and just give us natural resources all the time like they should. They decide that they want stupid

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: A suggestion

On Tuesday 11 December 2007 19:24:59 Levi Stephen wrote: > Haven't we been through this before? Yes. > > I seem to remember that trying to make B Nomic a protectorate of Agora > is what got B Nomic kick started out of a quiet period. Possibly. ATM, it's quite lively, just hole-riddled. > > Oh, a

DIS: Re: BUS: A suggestion

Josiah Worcester wrote: I suggest that all Agorans come to aid our fellow nomic, B Nomic, in a time of need. Currently, its rules seem to be breaking down. The Grand Chancellor of B has taken control of the game state. Therefore, I request that all true Agorans search for any loopholes in its c

DIS: Re: BUS: Brainfuck Golf

I join Brainfuck Golf. On Dec 10, 2007 6:25 AM, Iammars <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I join Brainfuck Golf > > > > On Dec 9, 2007 4:41 PM, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I join Brainfuck Golf. > > > > -zefram > > > > > > -- > -Iammars > www.jmcteague.com

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Elephants & Hats

On Tuesday 11 December 2007 18:56:03 Nick Vanderweit wrote: > You say there are elephants over there. However, in this rule, there > are elephants only in the cardinal directions. Thus, there is a > conflict here. > > Perhaps you are trying to win by paradox? The default value is "Over There". If

DIS: Re: BUS: Elephants & Hats

Wow, I feel really dumb. Five elephants. . . One is at the default location. . . Got it. . . avpx On Dec 11, 2007 6:56 PM, Nick Vanderweit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You say there are elephants over there. However, in this rule, there > are elephants only in the cardinal directions. Thus, there

DIS: Re: BUS: Elephants & Hats

You say there are elephants over there. However, in this rule, there are elephants only in the cardinal directions. Thus, there is a conflict here. Perhaps you are trying to win by paradox? avpx On Dec 9, 2007 7:17 PM, Josiah Worcester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I create the following proposal

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Fantasy Rules Contest, take three

Well, would you look at that. When you reply to the business list it becomes the discussion list! /me totally knew that... <_< >_> On Dec 11, 2007 8:25 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Iammars wrote: > > > I join the above contest. > > NttPF (not to the Public Forum), hence ineffective

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Fantasy Rules Contest, take three

Iammars wrote: I join the above contest. NttPF (not to the Public Forum), hence ineffective.

DIS: Re: BUS: Fantasy Rules Contest, take three

I join the above contest. On Dec 11, 2007 7:02 PM, Josiah Worcester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday 29 November 2007 21:06:20 Ed Murphy wrote: > > I agree to the following. The AFO agrees to the following. It > > thus becomes a public contract. I'll start the process of making > > it

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Brainfuck Golf, Hole #1

Ugh. You guys sound so far along. I'm a comlete newb and still am wondering how I am going to do this. On Dec 11, 2007 7:30 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 11, 2007 4:18 PM, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So, I'm a brainfuck newbie. I've made a program to store the primes

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Brainfuck Golf, Hole #1

On Dec 11, 2007 4:18 PM, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So, I'm a brainfuck newbie. I've made a program to store the primes in > memory (not print them) that is 267 valid characters long. But I wouldn't > be surprised if someone else has made a much shorter implementation; and I > bet formatt

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Brainfuck Golf, Hole #1

comex wrote: >Thoughts? Can I hear some other peoples' character counts? I don't want to give away competetive details, but I'll give some approximate information. The first working version of my code to generate and print the primes was about 350 characters. That was roughly half for generati

DIS: Re: BUS: Brainfuck Golf, Hole #1

On Monday 10 December 2007, Ian Kelly wrote: > We'll begin relatively simple: the first task for Brainfuck Golf is > to print out all the prime numbers (and only the prime numbers) less > than 256, delimited by newlines, and then terminate. So, I'm a brainfuck newbie. I've made a program to sto

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1831a: assign Iammers, OscarMeyr, root

On Dec 11, 2007 4:01 PM, Benjamin Schultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 10, 2007, at 6:00 PM, Zefram wrote: > > > I hereby assign the judicial panel of Iammers, OscarMeyr, and root as > > judge of CFJ 1831a. > > > With the agreement of H. Appeal Judges Iammars and root, I intend to > have the

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1831a: assign Iammers, OscarMeyr, root

I agree. On Dec 11, 2007 6:01 PM, Benjamin Schultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 10, 2007, at 6:00 PM, Zefram wrote: > > > I hereby assign the judicial panel of Iammers, OscarMeyr, and root as > > judge of CFJ 1831a. > > > With the agreement of H. Appeal Judges Iammars and root, I intend to

DIS: Round 255

In case anyone missed it (it was in the middle of processing some improvements to the Regular Ordinances), the theme of Round 255 of the Fantasy Rules Committee is "0xFF". As usual, the round will begin when the first fantasy rule (valid or not) is posted. Players of Agora can score points towar

DIS: Re-Proto: Permissions

I think this was missing a couple of things. This adds a recordkeepor and an expiry time. {{{ Create a rule titled 'Permissions' with the following text: A Permission is fixed asset. The recordkeepor of Permissions is the Registrar. Each Permission is associated with a regu

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1830a: assign Goddess Eris, root, Wooble

On 12/11/07, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That's my reasoning as well. In consideration of the original judge, > I would also consent to REMAND with instructions to either judge > according to the actual gamestate or just IRRELEVANT. I consent to REMAND with instructions as above. I sti

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1830a: assign Goddess Eris, root, Wooble

On 12/11/07, Geoffrey Spear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Is there a reason you prefer this to REMAND with instructions? > > To spare everyone from more unnecessary consideration of the case? I > suppose it's a philosophical question of what the purpose of an > appeals panels should be. Given th

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1830a: assign Goddess Eris, root, Wooble

On Dec 11, 2007 12:12 PM, Geoffrey Spear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 11, 2007 1:30 PM, Taral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Is there a reason you prefer this to REMAND with instructions? > > To spare everyone from more unnecessary consideration of the case? I > suppose it's a philosophical

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: A Message from B Nomic

On Tuesday 11 December 2007, Kerim Aydin wrote: > On Tue, 11 Dec 2007, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > > so it's "valid in every way, > > even if it is in contradiction to the rules." > > > > Isn't explicitly legislating "I say I do, therefore I do" frickin' > > wonderful? > > Except that Here in Agora, we

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1830a: assign Goddess Eris, root, Wooble

On Dec 11, 2007 1:30 PM, Taral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 12/11/07, Geoffrey Spear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > With the consent of H. Goddess Eris and H. root, I intend to have the > > panel judge OVERRULE with a replacement judgement of IRRELEVANT, > > Is there a reason you prefer this to

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1830a: assign Goddess Eris, root, Wooble

On 12/11/07, Geoffrey Spear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > With the consent of H. Goddess Eris and H. root, I intend to have the > panel judge OVERRULE with a replacement judgement of IRRELEVANT, Is there a reason you prefer this to REMAND with instructions? -- Taral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Please le

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: A Message from B Nomic

On Tue, 11 Dec 2007, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > so it's "valid in every way, > even if it is in contradiction to the rules." > > Isn't explicitly legislating "I say I do, therefore I do" frickin' wonderful? Except that Here in Agora, we don't accept other Nomics' opinions on said matters. -G.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Brainfuck Golf, Hole #1

On Dec 11, 2007 9:47 AM, Geoffrey Spear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Do you have a preferred newline format? Is the ASCII LF character > sufficient rather than a CR LF? I prefer just LF, but I intentionally left it vague because it doesn't matter much to me. -root

DIS: Re: BUS: Brainfuck Golf, Hole #1

On Dec 10, 2007 1:21 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't think there's any need to wait on contestification or my > intended amendment to go through, so let's get started. > > We'll begin relatively simple: the first task for Brainfuck Golf is > to print out all the prime numbers (a

DIS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5353-5357

I vote as follows: > NUM FL AI SUBMITTER TITLE > 5353 D0 3Murphy Fix MMI bullets FOR > 5354 D1 3Murphy MMI parallelism PRESENT > 5355 O0 1.7 Murphy Paris in the the spring FOR x 6 > 5356 D1 3rootSecured proposal effects FOR > 5357 D0 2root

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: A Message from B Nomic

On Dec 10, 2007 9:14 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, 10 Dec 2007, Josiah Worcester wrote: > > > As Agoran Ambassador and Self-Proclaimed Agoran Spy, I feel it is my duty to > > transmit the following message from B Nomic: > > jt jo b Tubuf pg Fnfshfodz! Buubdl opx! Uijt >