Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5358-5372

2007-12-14 Thread Ed Murphy
pikhq wrote: On Friday 14 December 2007 20:36:19 comex wrote: On Friday 14 December 2007, Josiah Worcester wrote: Do you even pay *attention* to the weekly report on VVLOPs? At the top of the message I gave the AFO a VVLOP. I suppose overvoting is annoying; I might need to get out of the hab

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5358-5372

2007-12-14 Thread comex
On Friday 14 December 2007, Josiah Worcester wrote: > On Friday 14 December 2007 20:36:19 comex wrote: > > On Friday 14 December 2007, Josiah Worcester wrote: > > > Do you even pay *attention* to the weekly report on VVLOPs? > > > > At the top of the message I gave the AFO a VVLOP. I suppose > > o

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5358-5372

2007-12-14 Thread Josiah Worcester
On Friday 14 December 2007 20:36:19 comex wrote: > On Friday 14 December 2007, Josiah Worcester wrote: > > Do you even pay *attention* to the weekly report on VVLOPs? > > At the top of the message I gave the AFO a VVLOP. I suppose overvoting is > annoying; I might need to get out of the habit of

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5358-5372

2007-12-14 Thread comex
On Friday 14 December 2007, Josiah Worcester wrote: > Do you even pay *attention* to the weekly report on VVLOPs? At the top of the message I gave the AFO a VVLOP. I suppose overvoting is annoying; I might need to get out of the habit of it. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signe

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Vote Market

2007-12-14 Thread Taral
On 12/14/07, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If the voting period on that > decision does not end within the next 48 hours, the party who posted > the Sell Ticket is OBLIGATED to ensure that all valid votes e casts on > that decision at the end of its voting period are the same as was > sp

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5358-5372

2007-12-14 Thread Ian Kelly
On Dec 14, 2007 3:07 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > root wrote: > > > The advantage to being a party to a contract is the security granted > > by that contract. I've never supported granting players extra rights > > just for making contracts, which is effectively what partnerships do.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5358-5372

2007-12-14 Thread Roger Hicks
On 12/14/07, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Alternative: continue to allow partnerships to initiate CFJs, thereby > not creating conflict with R101. But make their entire bases > inelegible to judge. > My quality judge assignment proposal would have handled this elegantly without revokin

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5358-5372

2007-12-14 Thread Ed Murphy
root wrote: The advantage to being a party to a contract is the security granted by that contract. I've never supported granting players extra rights just for making contracts, which is effectively what partnerships do. What was/is your take on Groups?

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Vote Market

2007-12-14 Thread Ed Murphy
Eris wrote: On 12/14/07, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Eris wrote: On 12/14/07, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 7. Any player may join the Vote Market by announcement. Upon joining the Vote Market, 50 VP are created in the possession of that player. First class? A partnership

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Vote Market

2007-12-14 Thread Ed Murphy
comex wrote: On Friday 14 December 2007, Roger Hicks wrote: The party who posted the Sell Ticket is then OBLIGATED to cast all eir votes on that decision in the same manner as specified by the party who filled the Sell Ticket, but only if the voting period on that decision does not end within t

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5358-5372

2007-12-14 Thread Ian Kelly
On Dec 14, 2007 2:23 PM, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > R101 is worded (IMO) such that the change would not be blocked, but > non-first-class persons would be able to CFJ anyway, making the rule > broken. Overruled, not broken. > Plus, I support partnerships' rights. :) If partnerships are "n

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5358-5372

2007-12-14 Thread comex
On Friday 14 December 2007, Ed Murphy wrote: > comex wrote: > > But I seem to be in the minority with this opinion... I suppose you > > could argue that the only advantages partnerships ought to have are > > those that occur only when the members are in agreement, such as being > > able to more eff

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Vote Market

2007-12-14 Thread Taral
On 12/14/07, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Eris wrote: > > > On 12/14/07, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> 7. Any player may join the Vote Market by announcement. Upon joining > >> the Vote Market, 50 VP are created in the possession of that player. > > > > First class? > > A pa

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Vote Market

2007-12-14 Thread Ed Murphy
Eris wrote: On 12/14/07, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 7. Any player may join the Vote Market by announcement. Upon joining the Vote Market, 50 VP are created in the possession of that player. First class? A partnership could welsh on an agreement by dissolving, but only if someone

DIS: Re: BUS: Vote Market

2007-12-14 Thread comex
On Friday 14 December 2007, Roger Hicks wrote: > The party who posted the Sell > Ticket is then OBLIGATED to cast all eir votes on that decision in the > same manner as specified by the party who filled the Sell Ticket, but > only if the voting period on that decision does not end within the > next

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5358-5372

2007-12-14 Thread Ed Murphy
comex wrote: But I seem to be in the minority with this opinion... I suppose you could argue that the only advantages partnerships ought to have are those that occur only when the members are in agreement, such as being able to more efficiently spend VCs. Hmm... Requiring even passive agree

DIS: Re: BUS: Vote Market

2007-12-14 Thread Taral
On 12/14/07, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 7. Any player may join the Vote Market by announcement. Upon joining > the Vote Market, 50 VP are created in the possession of that player. First class? -- Taral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can giv

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5358-5372

2007-12-14 Thread comex
On Friday 14 December 2007, Ian Kelly wrote: > On Dec 14, 2007 12:02 PM, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > comex wrote: > > >It purports to limit the R101 right of persons to initiate CFJs. > > > > A partnership can still effectively initiate CFJs via its first-class > > person members. I beli

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5358-5372

2007-12-14 Thread Ian Kelly
On Dec 14, 2007 12:02 PM, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > comex wrote: > >It purports to limit the R101 right of persons to initiate CFJs. > > A partnership can still effectively initiate CFJs via its first-class > person members. I believe this satisfies the R101 right. That's what I was thi

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5358-5372

2007-12-14 Thread Zefram
comex wrote: >It purports to limit the R101 right of persons to initiate CFJs. A partnership can still effectively initiate CFJs via its first-class person members. I believe this satisfies the R101 right. -zefram

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5358-5372

2007-12-14 Thread comex
On 12/14/07, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A proposal that fixes several judicial loopholes and does nothing else > is terrible? It purports to limit the R101 right of persons to initiate CFJs. I don't mind the rest of the fixes, if they are proposed separately.

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5358-5372

2007-12-14 Thread Ian Kelly
On Dec 14, 2007 10:51 AM, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 5358 D1 2Murphy 1 is 1 > AGAINST - what is an associated number? A number associated with the player. The proposal makes perfect sense if you read it in the context of the rule it is amending. > > 5371 O1 1.7 Zefram