Re: DIS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1845: assign OscarMeyr

2007-12-24 Thread Benjamin Schultz
On Dec 23, 2007, at 12:01 PM, Zefram wrote: Benjamin Schultz wrote: This CFJ may hinge on an adequate specification of clearly specify. Yes. I think clearly specify is a stronger requirement than specify. -zefram After further review, I think comex did not

Re: DIS: Draft decision on CFJ 1851

2007-12-24 Thread Benjamin Schultz
On Dec 23, 2007, at 11:59 AM, Zefram wrote: Benjamin Schultz wrote: R208 takes precedence over R955. This doesn't seem relevant. I started to go somewhere else, but never actually arrived there. I was anticipating an issue of balancing the automatic outcome selection in R955 vs. the

DIS: Re: BUS: Winnation

2007-12-24 Thread Benjamin Schultz
On Dec 24, 2007, at 12:56 AM, Nick Vanderweit wrote: I cause WALRUS to spend 2 VCs of each color to cause me to gain 1 VC of each color. Because WALRUS does not have any VCs, the loss is waived, per rule 2126. I spend 1 VC of each color to win the game. avpx We do need a patch in

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1845: assign OscarMeyr

2007-12-24 Thread Zefram
Benjamin Schultz wrote: Given that comex did not meet the requirement (b) for submitting a criminal CFJ, I rule FALSE. That matches my logic. You could perhaps do with expanding your discussion of what constitutes clarity. -zefram

DIS: Re: BUS: Winnation

2007-12-24 Thread Josiah Worcester
On Monday 24 December 2007 11:36:04 Nick Vanderweit wrote: I retract my previous (probably invalid) CFJ. I CFJ on the following statement: It is possible to spend VCs that one does not own. avpx On Dec 24, 2007 12:51 AM, Nick Vanderweit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I CFJ on this. Spending

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Winnation

2007-12-24 Thread Nick Vanderweit
Also, it seems to me that, since the difference is so thin, and the rules do not cover it, it would be valid to count spending as a loss. avpx On Dec 24, 2007 11:40 AM, Josiah Worcester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 24 December 2007 11:36:04 Nick Vanderweit wrote: I retract my previous

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1845: assign OscarMeyr

2007-12-24 Thread Ed Murphy
OscarMeyr wrote: b) comex referred to R2149 in eir arguments, and presented no other rule in the message as provided to this CFJ. A statement in the CFJ argument is not a clear designation in the CFJ statement proper of the rule allegedly breached. FAIL Criminal cases don't have

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Winnation

2007-12-24 Thread Ed Murphy
OscarMeyr wrote: We do need a patch in 2126, along the lines of replacing: VCs may be spent as follows, by announcement (INVALID unless the color is specified): With: VCs may be spent as follows, by announcement (INVALID unless the color(s) is/are accurately specified

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Winnation

2007-12-24 Thread Ed Murphy
pikhq wrote: Common sense dictates that, when you spend something, you have also lost it. The rules do not say otherwise, so common sense prevails. This whole case is centered around whether or not to spend is sufficiently similar to to lose to allow the VC loss to be waived. I invite the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Winnation

2007-12-24 Thread Buddha Buck
On Dec 24, 2007 2:21 PM, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: pikhq wrote: Common sense dictates that, when you spend something, you have also lost it. The rules do not say otherwise, so common sense prevails. This whole case is centered around whether or not to spend is sufficiently

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Winnation

2007-12-24 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Dec 24, 2007 2:42 PM, Buddha Buck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 24, 2007 2:21 PM, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: pikhq wrote: Common sense dictates that, when you spend something, you have also lost it. The rules do not say otherwise, so common sense prevails. This whole