Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 1890-91 assigned to OscarMeyr

2008-02-21 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 21 Feb 2008, Ed Murphy wrote: > Rule 2019 does say "SHALL do X by announcement", where X = "randomly > assign each Minister Without Portfolio a different Prerogative for the > upcoming month". But I don't think it did "at the time of the CFJ", did it? I'm pretty sure that bugfix was min

Re: DIS: Tailor's Report Page

2008-02-21 Thread Ian Kelly
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 7:36 PM, Iammars <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://jmcteague.com/mediawikiold/index.php?title=Agora_Nomic_Tailor%27s_Report > Put it up on my wiki because I decided it was easier than trying to create a > SVN or other stuff like that. Is that an invitation to edit it? I

Re: DIS: Proto-Judgement on CFJ 1904

2008-02-21 Thread Ian Kelly
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 7:35 PM, Iammars <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The key part of Rule 2149/8 is that a message doesn't have to be true, but > that the person who writes it believes that it is true. comes tries to > exploit a loophole that he thought would work, so Rule 2149/8 doesn't take > af

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 1890-91 assigned to OscarMeyr

2008-02-21 Thread Ian Kelly
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 7:36 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Rule 2019 does say "SHALL do X by announcement", where X = "randomly > assign each Minister Without Portfolio a different Prerogative for the > upcoming month". It does now, because we adopted a proposal of Goethe's that fi

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 1890-91 assigned to OscarMeyr

2008-02-21 Thread Ed Murphy
root wrote: > On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 6:37 PM, Benjamin Schultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Much thanks to zefram for eir help and comments on these rulings. >> >> CFJ 1890: >> The Speaker CAN assign prerogatives for the upcoming month in >> the seven days before the beginning of a mo

DIS: Tailor's Report Page

2008-02-21 Thread Iammars
http://jmcteague.com/mediawikiold/index.php?title=Agora_Nomic_Tailor%27s_Report Put it up on my wiki because I decided it was easier than trying to create a SVN or other stuff like that. -- -Iammars www.jmcteague.com

DIS: Proto-Judgement on CFJ 1904

2008-02-21 Thread Iammars
The key part of Rule 2149/8 is that a message doesn't have to be true, but that the person who writes it believes that it is true. comes tries to exploit a loophole that he thought would work, so Rule 2149/8 doesn't take affect here. I proto-judge INNOCENT. -- -Iammars www.jmcteague.com

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 1890-91 assigned to OscarMeyr

2008-02-21 Thread Ian Kelly
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 6:37 PM, Benjamin Schultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Much thanks to zefram for eir help and comments on these rulings. > > CFJ 1890: > The Speaker CAN assign prerogatives for the upcoming month in > the seven days before the beginning of a month. > > CFJ 1765 e

Re: DIS: New Proto with different judgements

2008-02-21 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 21 Feb 2008, Ben Caplan wrote: > We have here a moral, not a factual, decision. Either choice makes sense; > which one is _right_? The general practice is that if two decisions are equally, or close to similarly "reasonable", then we defer to the judge's call. That is, a hypothetical App

Re: DIS: New Proto with different judgements

2008-02-21 Thread Roger Hicks
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 3:52 PM, Ben Caplan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > If the agent of Registrar (through Cantus Cygneus) doesn't > > >satisfy, neither would the agent of a deputy. > > > > Nice point. Its validity comes down to the question of how much > > BobTHJness is e

Re: DIS: New Proto with different judgements

2008-02-21 Thread Ben Caplan
> > If the agent of Registrar (through Cantus Cygneus) doesn't > >satisfy, neither would the agent of a deputy. > > Nice point. Its validity comes down to the question of how much > BobTHJness is entailed in the position that I was deputising for. > As noted above, I think there wa

Re: DIS: New Proto with different judgements

2008-02-21 Thread Zefram
Kerim Aydin wrote: >> == CFJ 1895 == >>BobTHJ is an R2160 'position' ... >This Court finds FALSE. Good analysis. >> == CFJ 1899 == >>BobTHJ CAN register. ... >First, I offer

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Skipping judges

2008-02-21 Thread Taral
On 2/21/08, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Any case (as the wording seems to say), or just inquiry cases (the > subject of R591)? Any case. Without 2 objections is a high bar. -- Taral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you." -- Unknown

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Skipping judges

2008-02-21 Thread Zefram
Taral wrote: >Amend Rule 591 by adding this paragraph at the end: > > The Clerk of the Courts CAN disqualify a player from a case > without 2 objections. Any case (as the wording seems to say), or just inquiry cases (the subject of R591)? -zefram

Re: DIS: New Proto with different judgements

2008-02-21 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 3:39 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A set of proto-judgements... I suggest you resubmit the first as a thesis for a D.N.Phil.

DIS: New Proto with different judgements

2008-02-21 Thread Kerim Aydin
[I have substantially changed my opinion as a result of the recent conversations] A set of proto-judgements... On Mon, 18 Feb 2008, Ed Murphy wrote: > == CFJ 1895 == >BobTHJ is an R2160 'position' Agora, by long tradition, is fundam

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 5441-5445

2008-02-21 Thread Ed Murphy
root wrote: > Then what, may I ask, was the point in issuing the claim of error? Because it gives em an excuse to continue presenting eir interpretation as if it were judicially established fact. :)

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: nominations for IADoP

2008-02-21 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 21 Feb 2008, Ben Caplan wrote: > I never realized before just how much *gratuitous* information is in > the report. Apparently Agorans enjoy paperwork. Technically, that > report could be shortened to: > > - > IADoP's Organization Chart It used to be (not that long ago? I didn't noti

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: nominations for IADoP

2008-02-21 Thread Ben Caplan
On Thursday 21 February 2008 10:57 Geoffrey Spear wrote: > When the elections in question were resolved, it was noted that the > first attempt to resolve the votes on those proposals has > self-ratified so in every case the earlier date was correct. Ok. > I think I've actually got an up-to-date IA

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 5441-5445

2008-02-21 Thread Ian Kelly
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 2:45 AM, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ian Kelly wrote: > > 5441 5442 5443 5444 5445 > > > >BobTHJ A4A A > > Claim of error: BobTHJ cannot have cast votes on these proposals, > because e was not an eligible voter due to no

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: nominations for IADoP

2008-02-21 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 11:47 AM, Ben Caplan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday 21 February 2008 14:11 Geoffrey Spear wrote: > > I nominate Goethe, OscarMeyr, Pavitra, and Wooble for IADoP. > > Hmm... > > What happened with pikhq's nominations on (16 or 19) January? I've > spent the last

DIS: Re: BUS: nominations for IADoP

2008-02-21 Thread Ben Caplan
On Thursday 21 February 2008 14:11 Geoffrey Spear wrote: > I nominate Goethe, OscarMeyr, Pavitra, and Wooble for IADoP. Hmm... What happened with pikhq's nominations on (16 or 19) January? I've spent the last half-hour trying to sort it out. Was it just left ambiguous?

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Refactor initiation requirements

2008-02-21 Thread Ben Caplan
On Thursday 21 February 2008 4:17 Ed Murphy wrote: > (e) Any additional information defined by the rules as > essential parameters. (e) Any essential parameters for that decision. > If an Agoran decision has an adoption index, then the following > are essential

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 1890-91 assigned to OscarMeyr

2008-02-21 Thread Zefram
Benjamin Schultz wrote: >My search-fu through my saved messages is failing me. Would you >please throw me a bone, er, precedent? CFJ 1765. -zefram