DIS: Appeal 2027a - a leftover

2008-07-28 Thread Benjamin Schultz
BobTHJ? Woggle? Any thoughts on CFJ 2027a? - Benjamin Schultz KE3OM OscarMeyr

Re: DIS: Database dumps

2008-07-28 Thread Ed Murphy
OscarMeyr wrote: > Is the Java Chrononaughts still up? May I join? http://zenith.homelinux.net/chrononauts/ No provision for network play, alas.

Re: DIS: Database dumps

2008-07-28 Thread Benjamin Schultz
On Jul 28, 2008, at 1:18 AM, Ed Murphy wrote: I've configured Zenith to run nightly database dumps. The CotC DB is ~3MB, the others are both under 50K. (Don't worry about DoSing it; it's been serving ~2GB per month for a while now, due to hosting a Java version of Chrononauts after the author'

DIS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5658-5667

2008-07-28 Thread Sgeo
> NUM FL AI SUBMITTER TITLE > 5658 D1 2Murphy Generalize panels FOR > 5659 D1 3Murphy Let recordkeepers disambiguate ENDORSE ais523 > 5660 O1 1comex Even objecting and voting should be unam... ENDORSEx4 ais523 > 5661 D1 2comex Conscientious objec

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Dealing with the ihope issue.

2008-07-28 Thread Ben Caplan
On Monday 28 July 2008 03:14:11 pm I wrote: > Resolving this probably will require a close reading of rule 2178. > There would superficially appear to be a conflict in this case > between its second-to-last and last paragraphs. > > For reference: >       If the text of a potential contract is publ

Re: DIS: DotNomic

2008-07-28 Thread Ed Murphy
ais523 wrote: > On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 14:26 -0400, Geoffrey Spear wrote: >> On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 2:10 PM, ais523 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> What about PerlNomic? Shouldn't that be recognised too? After all, it's >>> participating in Agora at the moment... >> Having a forum in PerlNomic in w

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5658-5667

2008-07-28 Thread Ed Murphy
tusho wrote: > 2008/7/28 Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> What's that? >> >> > > eso-std.org's server, so named when we (me and ais523) were bashing > randomly-typed names off our keyboards over IRC, and we liked that one. > > After a quick google, turned out it's a species in both Star Trek *a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Dealing with the ihope issue.

2008-07-28 Thread Ben Caplan
On Monday 28 July 2008 03:06:35 pm Elliott Hird wrote: > 2008/7/28 Geoffrey Spear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Logged or not, your IRC channel isn't a Public Forum. > > And you don't have to agree to contracts in a Public Forum. Resolving this probably will require a close reading of rule 2178. There

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Dealing with the ihope issue.

2008-07-28 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 3:06 PM, Elliott Hird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And you don't have to agree to contracts in a Public Forum. Rule 2178: Changes in the text or membership of a public contract do not become effective until they are published. The contract in question claimed t

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Dealing with the ihope issue.

2008-07-28 Thread Elliott Hird
2008/7/28 Geoffrey Spear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Logged or not, your IRC channel isn't a Public Forum. > And you don't have to agree to contracts in a Public Forum.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Dealing with the ihope issue.

2008-07-28 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 2:57 PM, Elliott Hird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No it wasn't. > > I can provide logs. Logged or not, your IRC channel isn't a Public Forum.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Dealing with the ihope issue.

2008-07-28 Thread Elliott Hird
2008/7/28 Geoffrey Spear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Changes to the parties in a public contract take effect when they're > published; eir leaving the contract was published before you joined > it. > No it wasn't. I can provide logs.

DIS: Re: BUS: Dealing with the ihope issue.

2008-07-28 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 1:50 PM, ihope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Too late; I've already agreed to it on IRC. Changes to the parties in a public contract take effect when they're published; eir leaving the contract was published before you joined it.

Re: DIS: DotNomic

2008-07-28 Thread ais523
On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 14:26 -0400, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 2:10 PM, ais523 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What about PerlNomic? Shouldn't that be recognised too? After all, it's > > participating in Agora at the moment... > > Having a forum in PerlNomic in which e could ann

Re: DIS: DotNomic

2008-07-28 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 2:10 PM, ais523 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What about PerlNomic? Shouldn't that be recognised too? After all, it's > participating in Agora at the moment... Having a forum in PerlNomic in which e could announce the recognition would probably be a first good step...

Re: DIS: DotNomic

2008-07-28 Thread ais523
On Sun, 2008-07-27 at 22:28 -0700, Ed Murphy wrote: > http://dotnomic.wikidot.com/ > > I don't personally have time to keep up with any forum-based nomics, > but I recommend that H. Ambassador BobTHJ recognize it per Rule 2185. What about PerlNomic? Shouldn't that be recognised too? After all, it'

DIS: Re: BUS: Closing the Vote Market Insurance loophole

2008-07-28 Thread ais523
On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 00:28 -0400, Ben Caplan wrote: > On Friday 25 July 2008 06:39:35 pm Sgeo wrote: > > I object. Players joining the Vote Market for the first time are > > automatically in violation with this. > > Yikes. > > I object. Good catch. I won't activate that change now. I still like

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5658-5667

2008-07-28 Thread Elliott Hird
2008/7/28 Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > What's that? > > eso-std.org's server, so named when we (me and ais523) were bashing randomly-typed names off our keyboards over IRC, and we liked that one. After a quick google, turned out it's a species in both Star Trek *and* Star Wars. Which was all

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5658-5667

2008-07-28 Thread Ed Murphy
tusho wrote: > You can run it on rutian. :P What's that?

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2107a assigned to BobTHJ, Murphy, comex

2008-07-28 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 1:02 PM, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > By the way, I think Appellant Zefram missed the point in CFJ > 2086-2087... at the moment that I say "I CFJ on xxx", it is true that > I am initiating a CFJ on xxx (and not true at any other time). > However, is it then true that C

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2107a assigned to BobTHJ, Murphy, comex

2008-07-28 Thread comex
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 12:35 PM, ihope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 10:12 PM, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Normally I would like to give ihope the benefit of the doubt, because >> people should not be penalized for stating their opinions about a >> controversy. But

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2107a assigned to BobTHJ, Murphy, comex

2008-07-28 Thread ihope
On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 10:12 PM, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Normally I would like to give ihope the benefit of the doubt, because > people should not be penalized for stating their opinions about a > controversy. But it is true that ihope used this statement, > unqualified, as arguments f

DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2099 assigned to Wooble

2008-07-28 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 3:17 AM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > == CFJ 2099 == > >I transfer all my crops to the PNP. I find that that precedents in CFJs 2079-2080 are irrelevant to this case; in those cases the announcement th

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2107 assigned to Wooble

2008-07-28 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 9:11 PM, ihope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is an interesting sentence, as I'm not a player and therefore > have no Notes, and certainly won't have any in the next 72 hours. Well, then appealing the case so there's a chance the sentence won't go into effect until you o

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 2081-85 assigned to OscarMeyr

2008-07-28 Thread Elliott Hird
2008/7/28 Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > It was a deliberately false statement, and that *does* violate the rules. > > -zefram > You and I *both* know that we disagree strongly on this point.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5658-5667

2008-07-28 Thread Elliott Hird
2008/7/28 Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Aha, I only have 2.2 (Zenith is still running RH9, and I still haven't > gotten around to buying its successor). > > You can run it on rutian. :P Note that the expression evaluates to the string '\x03', but I guess maybe, since it's a single character, w

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 2081-85 assigned to OscarMeyr

2008-07-28 Thread Zefram
Elliott Hird wrote: >This is an utterly preposterous judgement, as I was assisting in Goethe's >demonstration that failing speech acts were not illegal. It was not a threat >in any shape or form. I concur that it was not a threat, but also note that threats to kill do not violate the rules anyway.

Re: DIS: DotNomic

2008-07-28 Thread Elliott Hird
2008/7/28 Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > http://dotnomic.wikidot.com/ > > I don't personally have time to keep up with any forum-based nomics, > but I recommend that H. Ambassador BobTHJ recognize it per Rule 2185. > >From their website: > I just saw mention of DotNomic in Agora's discussion lis