DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2346 assigned to Wooble

2009-01-27 Thread comex
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 7:17 AM, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: It seems incredibly unlikely that when entering into a contract with someone who's breached as many contracts as ehird has ais523 reasonably expected em to abide by the terms of the contract. Affairs proceded exactly

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2346 assigned to Wooble

2009-01-27 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 27 Jan 2009, comex wrote: On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 7:17 AM, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: It seems incredibly unlikely that when entering into a contract with someone who's breached as many contracts as ehird has ais523 reasonably expected em to abide by the terms of the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2346 assigned to Wooble

2009-01-27 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: Indeed. It could be said that the purpose of *any* contract is to enforce trust in cases where people aren't inherently trustworthy. The problem in a case like this is that there's no way for the equity court to

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2346 assigned to Wooble

2009-01-27 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 27 Jan 2009, Geoffrey Spear wrote: On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: Indeed. It could be said that the purpose of *any* contract is to enforce trust in cases where people aren't inherently trustworthy. The problem in a case like this is that

DIS: Re: BUS: revenge of the NoVs

2009-01-27 Thread Benjamin Schultz
On Jan 25, 2009, at 10:30 PM, comex wrote: On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 10:17 PM, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: I publish 98 NoVs, replacing X below with each of P2 - P98: comex violated Rule 1742 (power 2) by violating the X contract by causing X to register with the same basis as

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Judicial NoVs

2009-01-27 Thread Benjamin Schultz
On Jan 26, 2009, at 6:08 PM, Taral wrote: On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk wrote: Note that the intent of the proposal was that contesting NoVs due to a belief that their punishment is unjust is valid, and a reasonable use of contestment. There is also

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Judicial NoVs

2009-01-27 Thread Benjamin Schultz
On Jan 26, 2009, at 1:08 PM, Alex Smith wrote: On Sun, 2009-01-25 at 23:26 -0800, Ed Murphy wrote: Wooble wrote: On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 8:28 PM, comex com...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 5:54 PM, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: comex violated R2158 (power 2) by

DIS: Re: BUS: Leaving

2009-01-27 Thread Warrigal
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Ian Kelly ian.g.ke...@gmail.com wrote: I deregister. -root With all these deregistrations going around, I'm sure people would be severely disappointed if I didn't deregister as well. Therefore, I hereby invoke my R101 right. --Warrigal Specifically, Paragraph

DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ on reward/punishment

2009-01-27 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 27 Jan 2009, Warrigal wrote: I CFJ on the following statement: If the Rules specify that a player is to receive a Note for performing a required (i.e. a SHALL) action, and e fails to perform it, the withholding of the Note is, for the purposes of R101(vi), a penalty for breaking the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ on reward/punishment

2009-01-27 Thread Warrigal
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 7:23 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: Gratuitous argument: If withholding a reward for an action not performed is a punishment, we're all constantly being punished for doing something we are not obligated to not do. You're missing the key point that I'm

DIS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 6063-6069

2009-01-27 Thread Warrigal
Proposal 6065 (Democratic, AI=2.0, Interest=1) by comex Rebellion A Rebellious Player is a Player who cast all eir valid votes FOR this proposal. Destroy all Rests held by Rebellious Players. I should have gone Inactive before this distribution so that I could vacuously be considered

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ on reward/punishment

2009-01-27 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 27 Jan 2009, Warrigal wrote: On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 7:23 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: Gratuitous argument: If withholding a reward for an action not performed is a punishment, we're all constantly being punished for doing something we are not obligated to not do.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ on reward/punishment

2009-01-27 Thread Warrigal
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 10:14 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: Having such an explanation laid out and discussed was the purpose of this CFJ, but you can't (or at least shouldn't) dismiss it quite so simply. Sorry, I was under the impression that I was agreeing with you when I said

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ on reward/punishment

2009-01-27 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 27 Jan 2009, Warrigal wrote: On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 10:14 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: Having such an explanation laid out and discussed was the purpose of this CFJ, but you can't (or at least shouldn't) dismiss it quite so simply. Sorry, I was under the impression

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ on reward/punishment

2009-01-27 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 10:14 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: Why? If the two are in the same currency (+1 note versus -2 notes), what's the difference for R101, which must consider any sort of penalty (note: penalty not punishment). If I don't get my note I've certainly been

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ on reward/punishment

2009-01-27 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 27 Jan 2009, Geoffrey Spear wrote: On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 10:14 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: Why? If the two are in the same currency (+1 note versus -2 notes), what's the difference for R101, which must consider any sort of penalty (note: penalty not punishment).